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Paleo diet
  • I've been feeling like poop lately, my diet is awful, and my digestive system hates me. I'm getting more zits, my nails are brittle, I'm just not in shape. So I've been researching this paleo diet thing and it's surprisingly similar to what my parents cooked for dinner, except we would have baked potatoes most nights. Just meat and veggies (and fruits and nuts!), the reasoning makes sense to me, though I don't know if I can give up my rice.

    My one problem is that I cannot eat cooked eggs without them running right through me (sorry, TMI), and those seem to be a good go to food for paleo people. I'm sure I can do it without it, it'll just suck because I love eggs. Maybe after the initial cleanse I'll be more tolerant? I hope. I think I'll go with the small amounts of dairy in the diet as well, as I live in Wisconsin and I can be kicked out of the state if I don't.

    So today I went to the grocery store and picked up half a pork loin, some frozen chicken breasts, mushrooms, and blackberries. I already have a huge amount of carrots and lettuce as I plan to share with my guinea pigs. The loin was cut in half and one part made into chops, the roast part just came out of the oven. That will be my first meal labeled "paleo". I do plan to phase out the processed stuff, as I have a bunch of it in my kitchen and I'm not one for wasting, my boyfriend is allergic to gluten so he can't help me. I'll phase it out over the next week and go 3 weeks full paleo and see how I feel afterwards.

    I'm going to start doing zumba and upper body strength workouts religiously with a rest day. I don't own a human sized scale so I'll be watching for results. My goal is to lose 50lbs (I'm up to 200 :( ) and my bingo wings. If this can happen by the end of the Summer that'd be cool, but I don't want to die either.

    Can anyone share any tips or recipes? I'd love to hear!
    Post edited by ichigo at 2014-03-08 15:36:49
  • There are tons of Paleo recipe books out there, I've bought several at Barnes and Noble. There are also lots of good resources online, just google "Paleo recipes" and you'll find plenty. I usually just throw a bunch of vegetables in a pan and stir fry them with some coconut aminos. Then I do some sort of meat and throw it all together. Once you have the basic rules of the diet figured out, you can make whatever you want. Many of the recipes that mimic non-Paleo foods are complicated and contain expensive ingredients like almond flour and stuff like that.

    My boyfriend and I are back on the Paleo diet after falling off the wagon a few times since November. Just cutting out the gluten and dairy products made a huge difference with my health issues, I was feeling and looking better in less than two weeks. It's just a really restrictive diet and takes a good deal of willpower to stay on. It can also be pretty expensive if you're going to shop at the stores that have the best produce and meats available (Whole Paycheck.. errr, Whole Foods). Look into farmers markets and local farms if you can. Good luck!
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  • I'd recommend a good slow cooker for ease in meal preparation. They are ideal for roasts/meats. The one I'm addicted to is made by Ninja, and called the 3-in-1. It has stovetop, oven and slow cooker settings. You can sear your roast in it, flip it to slow cooker, head off to work (or school) and come home to a perfectly done meal. As added pluses, it doesn't heat up your kitchen like an oven, and it has a lower energy cost.

    But that is a pricey model. If it's a bit much for you, I'd still recommend trying a cheaper slow cooker, just make sure you get one that switches from "cook" to "keep warm" by itself so you can leave it run while you're taking care of daily business.

    You'll never have a roast so tender in an oven IMO.... I've had ones I had to spoon out of the cooker 'cause it was like trying to use a fork to pick up custard.
  • You'll never have a roast so tender in an oven IMO



    You have never had my roast...
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  • I'll give you my address, Ammit, send it over ;)

    I do have a slow cooker, it is my love. My parents make a beef roast in there with veggies a lot (though theirs includes potatoes, which I'd have to forgo). I'm not too big a fan of that roast though, the veggies are the best, but the meat is often too well done and sickly greasy. My cooker doesn't go to keep warm automatically, which sucks.

    I'm lucky to have an Aldi close by and a co-op membership, I'm most worried about the cravings for the processed junk I'm used to, noodles and bread are two of my favorite things, but I found a recipe for noodles made from zucchini, which I also love. Just realized I'm going to have to get a huge garden space for the spring... oh boy.
  • I assume spaghetti squash would be ok? Difficult to find sometimes but an awesome replacement for noodles. Also, google cauliflower rice. It's doesn't have quite the same texture as rice, but it's close and can work if you are using it for "on a bed of rice" substitutions...
  • "the meat is often too well done and sickly greasy"

    A round roast or an arm roast will be leaner than a chuck roast, which typically has quite a bit of fat. The arm has a finer muscle fiber, so it will be more tender with less cooking time. It is not however well suited for slicing, do to a thick band of gristle and as it tends to fall apart. If you want pulled barque beef this is a good cut.

    With a long slow cooking time, the round roast can be quite divine, and it will slice beautifully. It is lean and the eye round will not have any gristle. To come out tender, it does need careful preparation and cooking. Of which I an still learning. One of my mom's neighbors does a round roast in a dutch oven, very low, for the better part of a day. I have not had it, but I hear lots of great things about it.
    Post edited by Redbud at 2014-03-08 17:34:08
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  • There are lots of cool stuff you can do with paelo :) I have receipes for crackers made with almond flour, chocolate slice with no flour etc. Basically you use the 'diet' as a template really. For the most part I've ruled out all grains. I will occassionally slip up and snaffle a piece of garlic bread but very rarely. Othertimes if out and about will get say a gluten free option instead as just a little easier. But at home no grain. It's a bit easier for us in NZ too in that our beef and lamb are all grass raised and I have a very good supplier of grass raised pork and chicken too. I don't eat whole egg so that did cut out a few areas for me but easy enough to work around it. (used to have migraines and do react sometimes to egg protien but does seem not too bad when diluted in baking).
    I have kept dairy in that I use cheese a bit and have the occasional glass of milk. Also I kept potatoes.
  • Pits, sounds like we have a very similar egg allergy. Do you know which part of the egg causes the reaction? Yolk or white?

    My boyfriend is GF so I know a fair few good GF recipes and have a bag of red mill GF flour, though they all use not-paleo friendly ingredients like the refined sugars. I recently found a recipe for butter mints that I'll try out once I buy some peppermint oil.

    I'm trying to drink through all my hot chocolate now, lol, got a lot for christmas. Buttered toast is on the menu too.
  • I have the same problem with eggs, but I find I have more tolerance if I stay away from dairy and gluten. I found I am much better now that I lower my pasta and bread consumption. I have it in moderation now without getting too sick, but if I go overboard, it takes weeks to feel human again. I still can't handle milk well, but I've always had that problem.
  • Ichigo I think it is both the white and the yolk as both contain protein and as I react to the flu jab it is the protein I'm reacting too. Get yourself some almond flour (or blanched almonds if you have something to grind them in), and some potato starch flour (or tapicoa flour) I find I can make most recipes by substituting 2/3 almond to 1/3 potato/tapicoa. You do have to play around and either increase the liquid or reduce the overall flour content as the almond flour soaks up liquid. But there are heaps of paelo recipes around. For sweetness use coconut sugar or honey. Raw coco (not spelt right) can be used so able to make chocolate things.
    My niece has to be dairy, gulten and soy free! I do like my cheese in cooking and my milk to drink. You'll find if I get a base recipe I like (for example the crackers) sooner or later I'll try it with bacon (Dry cured), tomato and cheese lol. I like my savoury stuff.

    Oh and as a replacement for noodles I've often used cabbage. Love thinly sliced cabbage very lightly fried (I do still use olive oil or seseme oil) with chopped up bits of bacon and drizzled with lemon juice as a side. As a main I just would add fried meat, garlic and other veges. Often marinate a meat in seaseme oil, balsamic vinegar, garlic and ginger. My butcher (who raises their own beef and lamb and sources free range pork) as the most divine pork belly slices.
  • I am currently switching to Paleo again. At one time I was about 80% Paleo. I will never bee 100% paleo as I enjoy a few things too much to give up completely. Right now I am about 30% paleo and working on getting more towards at least 60%. Best advice is transition slowly rather than overnight. I tried the overnight thing and it sent my body into shock basically. Messed up my tummy and made me physically ill (headaches and vomitting) for a couple of days. The slower way was easier and better for me. I found a Paleo recipe for Chicken tenders and for "snickerdoodles" online made iwth almond flour and man they were exceptional. There are lots of excellent online sites now with all sorts of recipes so I am sure you will be able to find all sorts of things. Just be sure you are eating enough fuel (protein and carbs) when you start working out. That makes a huge difference in helping you lose weight. I rarely eat and actualy meal at night, but have a protein shake and maybe a little snack to help me recover from workout, but in the morning and at lunch I eat well. I also eat a little bit about an hour before workout so I can make it through. I do crossfit, so the extra energy is needed.

    Overall the best thing to remember if if you are hungry, eat, just don't eat junk and listen to your body. You can do this and you will be surprised at how quick the weight comes off just by changing a few meals into Paleo meals.
  • That's very encouraging, SD, I was chewing on maybe doing a ham and cheese non paleo lunch and roast/veggie paleo for dinner, with fruit and some sort of chicken or bacon for breakfast to start out. Maybe breakfast won't be full paleo, a piece of toast and butter maybe with blackberries. I think I'll make a true run at it at the end of the week, boyfriend's birthday is tomorrow and I want to be able to enjoy the meal his mother buys us, and at least try to finish off the junk in my pantry (there is so much....)
  • For breakfast try doing the smoothie thing :) Coconut cream, fruit either fresh or frozen some people chuck an egg in as well or dessicrated coconut. Whizz all up and a yummy smoothie for brekkie.
  • You are better off tossing the junk then scarfing it. Why make things worse before getting better?


    I used to have lots of issues with eggs. Since cleaning up my diet they no longer give me issues. Took about 3 years for me to be 100% ok with them. I still can only eat max of about 3 a day but as long as I don't go past that I can eat them every day. Lots of live culture fermented food and bone broth to heal the gut damage is the only way to get better with that. I don't eat full paleo as I don't think it is the right diet for us, but WAPF and GAPS style diets are pretty similar to paleo in a lot of ways.
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  • I agree with Ammit, chunk the junk in the trash or give it away. You will be better off for it. Also, smoothies and shakes are great in the morning for breakfast. If I m in a hurry (most weekdays) I will have one for breakfast with my protein powder, almond milk, and usually strawberries, bananas, or blue berries. I am slowly adding some veggies to that mix, but it is slow as I am no fan of veggies in my smoothies.

    Also, I try to do a few days worth of food prep on Sundays so that I am not constantly cooking during the week. It is just me so it is very easy to do. I don't know how that would work with a significant other or a child in the house. I follow "The Paleo Mom" on FB and she has a website as well that is great. She is a mom that has converted her family to Paleo and she has some great, quick and easy recipes that I love. She also has a new book out on how to successfully switch to Paleo, but I haven't purchased it yet. The best rule of thumb is eat fresh, anything with more than 5 ingredients try to stay away from, and honestly unless you grow it, don't worry about paying extra for the organic stuff. I try to purchase my meat from a local butcher that has 100% grassfed beef. So see if you can find that. The "grassfed" beef at the supermarkets is BS. Yes they were mostly grass fed their entire lives, BUT the last 60-90 days of their lives they are given grain to finish them out before they are butchered and once you give them grain, it changes the meat. I didn't believe this until I had some of the local butchers meat and wow what a difference in taste and fat content.

    One more thing. A lot of the Paleo recipes are also compatible with Gluten Free diets, but if you are not allergic to gluten, try to stay away from specific gluten free recipes. You will eventually cut out a lot of the gluten with a regular Paleo diet, but you will get what you need as well. It doesn't do any good for a person that isnt allergic to gluten to eat completely gluten free. I have had several doctors tell me this, so thankfully I don't worry about the gluten thing at all.

    Keep us posted and stick with it. You will love the results in the end. Oh yeah, and every once in a while it is ok to cheat and have a burger or a piece of cake, or whatever. I have a cheat day once a week starting out, but I can tell you that once you get around 50% Paleo and have a burger or cake, or something like that, your body will not be too happy. It just makes you feel yucky, and so you get to where you don't crave or want those kind of things again.
  • If you are craving sweet it's very easy to make paleo cakes or other sweet things. SD Stables while you may get gluten in other things by knocking out all grain you do remove it pretty much and that is normally what is making you feel yucky when you have a burger ;) If you do crave a burger as for it without the bun. Most places are happy to do this and you'll find after being paleo for a while you are actually quite full just eating the burger without the bun. Or you can make it at home with lettuce for the bun. I've also sandwiched burger ingredients (ie meat pattie (homemade), tomato, cheese, bacon, lettuce, aioli) between some baked potato slices.
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  • Oh and i make my own homemade mince with tomato, garlic, other spices and have it with baked potato slices and sour cream and cheese so like nachos but without the corn chips.
  • Thanks Pits! I will have to try that. I just recently tried lettuce wraps because, honestly, I couldn't convince myself that they would be good. Boy was I wrong (thankfully). i will have to try it with the hamburger because that sounds great! Makes sense about the gluten making me feel yucky since I am not used to that much bread in my diet anymore. The next time I go out I will have to get it without the bun. I am making Kale Chips tonight for the first time, so we will see how well that works out.
  • Yeah, I'm getting tired of waking up in the middle of the night with bad gas, and jut gas in general. I think I'm working up a gluten intolerance, gonna try cutting junk and gluten and then just go full/75% paleo for a while and see how that goes.

    Might start when I move home though, not sure :/ Depends on if I get this job or not, too stressed to really work on a lifestyle change, but I'm still making plans.
  • My dad did this once...he sure wasn't strict with it though. He would take a piece of lettuce and maybe some cheese (I don't remember now) and some ham, wrap it all up and eat it. That's really the only paleo thing he ate.
    Hope the paleo diet works for you, ichigo! ;)
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  • Cheese isn't paleo. ;)

    I try to limit cheese consumption if store bought but not our organic grass-fed homemade raw feta! I think low dairy or dairy free paleo is probably the way to go for people who don't have access to that quality of dairy. I also do eat some grain but we only eat 100% soaked and sprouted grain.
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  • I'm in Wisconsin, there's a dairy less than a mile from my parents house, I see the cows they use almost every day, I think I can get my hands on quality lol
  • Cheese isn't? Hum, I had no idea! As I said, my dad was really loose with the paleo. ;)
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  • The milk lobby is very strong in WI. I would be very skeptical purchasing milk from any dairy in the state. Raw sales are also completely 100% illegal there. So unless it was a small scale organic dairy specializing in natural pasture based feeding I would pass. The paleo people are correct that grain fed dairy causes more health issues then is worth consuming it. Not as bad with real cheese that has been fermented but still not ideal.

    Another important point full fat dairy ONLY. Skim milk makes people fat like you can't believe. Non buffered sugars spike glucose levels. 10x worse when pored over cereal grains. There is a reason why farmers fatten off pigs on skim milk and grain. Some day when we have pigs we will also use our skim to fatten pigs on. Now we sometimes sour it for buttermilk in cooking but mostly we dump it in the garden and compost piles when we have it. Not work drinking even for our ultra low grain, organic, pastured, raw goats milk.


    Apologies for the lecture but Paleo/WAPG/GAPS/SCD diets are something I know a really solid amount have had been researching for years. We moved to the midwest in part so I could eat clean and healthy enough to solve my health issues and most of them are gone now that we eat the way we do.
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  • That's where we are lucky here. During summer supply our dairy herds are primarily grass feed. It is in winter when supplementary feeding is done that there may be some grain. In saying that most of the winter feeding is haylage. I do believe we are very lucky here with the quality of our meat and dairy due to the fact that it is rare here for grain feeding to be done on any large scale. The eggs now not so good but still there is wide variety of free range ones available. The butcher we get our meat from raises their own beef and lamb and sources free range pork and chicken as well so nice and easy.

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