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Pintlala I am not sure what you are altering based on but I am not seeing poor quality. Almost )every foal is a 110% show horse (or plus or minus 1 point. That is exactly what you would expect from 110% sire. I also see several AGA sire foals. (remember sire is the lowest possible ability for his paper level) I think it is maybe 1 in 10 breedings you can expect to see a superior pop out. Over all this looks incredibly normal in the numbers. A 10.6 AFPT is down a small bit from expected but not by much. That is way higher than a foundation would give you.



Herzeloyde The changes to the testing system would have made zero difference in fact it would be a bit easier. There was no change at all between even crosses before and after. The issue is totally unrelated to the above or testing changes. The lines have capped out on yours. They can only go so high.

Some of these would not have been flagged in regular testing for sure. They are just one point shy of blue/A. It was not a great turn out but that has nothing to do with the boost at all. You just not get any super high swings.

It may have been hj2 only.
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/18836/a-working-example-of-uneven-breeding-and-pasture-bonuses

Test 1: Perfect foundation stallion (100% breeding ability) bred to 50 perfect foundation mares (100% breeding ability), zero days in pasture.
Results: 12 intact foals, 38 altered foals. Avg breeding ability 99%, Avg PT 9.65

Even to even has identical intact rates no mater the level you are breeding at. You don't get more intact horses or less intact horses if you are breeding 100% horses or 120% horses. So these results are the same as what you should expect from your crosses.

From this stud and this mare you should expect average of just below 110% ability, which we see, about 10.65 for the AFPT which we see. About 1 in 5 foals should be intact from strict testing. I see one foal that would have passed strict testing. So a little low on intact rate but not horrid. Just no superior foals yet. He just needs more numbers, 7 breedings with no bonus just isn't enough. It tends to take 10+ to get a superior.


There is nothing wrong with the sire and dam, people just tend to expect more intact foals from horses they paid a bunch for. But the stats are the same for a 2500 horse or a 2.5 million horse.

Thank you so much for the info and taking the time to explain it further. I really appreciate it. Again just wanted to make sure that you knew I was not talking about not getting intacts from my boosted stock, just overall quality. I will definitely be considering ungelding that colt :)

Your post above cleared up a lot of questions I had.

TY
Kim

I took your advice and ungelded/boosted that boy. Can't wait for him to grow up :)

A superior-to-sire colt is already significantly better than his sire, so you need to have superior-to fillies to pair him with to make sure you keep breeding evenly in the following generation. Remember how hard it is to get these just in the colts, then remember that you have a roughly equal number hiding out among your fillies and we don't have comparison testing for those.

If you boost the superior-to-sire colt another 5% you're further widening the gap between him and the girls of that generation, unless you subsequently boost them too.