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Organizing large barns.
  • As the number of horses I have grows, the harder I have time keeping organizing it. I find myself naming future horses I’m going to breed by their color qualities (example Bay snowflake) because there is no way I could remember them all if given a proper name. I have room available in stalls, so that right now isn’t an issue. I have my primary pasture, a 60 Horse pasture and a 10. Though I would eventually would like to purchase more pasture space, right now it is not feasible. Or at least I can’t jusftiy it till I organized my current herd a little better. Time wise, I’m ok I just find myself getting a little frustrated and losing interest sometimes because of my lack of organization.
    How do you manage your large herds? How do you name your babies? I try to incorporate the sires name, but it gets complicated when you get a couple generations in. Just looking for ideas. I had a hard time searching for old threads. Thanks!
  • I try to keep my barn organized but it is a jumbled mess lol. This is the basics of my naming:
    -All horses are named TE (standing for Tawny Eclipse)
    -After the TE is the generation number, if the horse is unevenly bred there will be no number
    -Show horses are simply TE [generation] (ID Number), unless they are brindle where they are noted as such
    -Intact stock will get TE [Generation] {Information} (ID Number)
    -I have specific short forms for specific things: SF = snowflake B = boosted line, BR = brindle, W1 = white 1, FR = frame, etc.
    -Intact horses with lethal genes will have them listed first in the information, followed by hidden genes, followed by basic colour, unless the horse is perfect or XP as they will be noted as that
    -My boosted line is a little bit different in that they go TE [generation] {lethal/SF information} (actual name)
    -My stallions go TE [generation] -paper/PTscore- (name) or TE [generation] -paper/PTscore- {info} (ID number)
    Forgot rank specials, they go TE 1 {lethal genes} -name somehow relevant to the rank special)- (ID number)
    Post edited by TawnyEclipse at 2018-03-11 07:18:44
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  • I use tattoos to identify generations in my breeding horses (from 2nd gen to 5+ gen). That way I can use the search to find, for example, 2nd gen mares of breeding age, or all my fully lined stallions (5+). I try to incorporate the parents' names into their offspring, but not always. Like Tawny Eclipse I put WV in front of all my horse names, but I also have two lines where I use an additional letter, so those starting WV H (name) are part of my original heavy horse line, and those that are WV C (name) are part of my Challenge Herd, which is a long term project. I also rely heavily on spread sheets to keep track of breeding stock by generation, and also use colour coding and columns of figures to see how they are doing.

    I don't know if that helps or confuses you more!
    HAJ 1 - WhiteValley #60847 HAJ 3 - minimum #175
    I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure.

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  • I use a prefix to manage my lines. I hardly ever find them in my barns, as I prefer to use the search. I use KP and GP for KP and GP (duh :P ), and then I use M1 (brown or wild bay), M2 (DP), M3 (satin) and M4 (snowflake). And I add their gen after their name. That way I can search for "KP M3 2G" to find 2G horses with satin and KP, as an example.

    My barns are sorted by showstock, stallions, foundation mares, lined mares and babies that needs to be sorted.
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  • Thanks everyone! I also use my farm prefix PF followed by key despcriptions and generation. Example, PF Bay W8 3G, but I find it gets confusing when I have a few sires with the same genes.
  • All my horses have FS to start with. If intact and lined, then it's FS (combination of sire and dam name) (generation number). Foundations are FS original name 1. Show horses are named FS(generation) ID number.
    Primary barn has my foundation stallions and the most space for foals to go into out of pasture. I have a barn for each generation with stallions and breeding stock 3 and younger. I also have pastures for each generation.
  • I use the prefixes JL for mares and JS for stallions and Z for show horses.

    For generations I use the alphabet starting with a for 2nd generation, b - 3rd, c - 4th etc...

    Nexus gets added next if applicable using NX, or IC for ice genes on the other server.

    Then the horses ID# or name if I’ve given it one. I often use tv episode names, songs, names or name while watching TV and any name, word or saying that pops out lol

    Bringing up the rear are any additional special genes mainly KP or Sa for satin.

    Next I have a 210 stall barn for each generation named with the mare prefix (JL, JLa, JLb, etc) and 1000 stall barns for showhorses. I only breed Grullos and spay/geld any that are not grullo so I don’t need colour indicators other than to indicate if they are nexus, ice, satin or KP. I normally cull quite heavily and only tend to keep superior colts and only up to 3 brothers per stallion but often only have 3-6 stallions per generation. I go through phases where I put all of a generation in a pasture and pick 3 studs to cover them or using a spread sheet and colour coding to pick breeding pairs.
    Breeding even generation Grullos with KP, Axiom RBG & Wrong Warp, Chinnchilla, Onyx, Phantom Autumn, Bats, Ghosts, Pumpkins, Skulls & Spiders, Plaid, Watercolour genes
  • I hear you,, I have a mess too. I have a stallion barn. most show horse are their ID #. those that survive have Gen then id number then abbreviations for their genes. my mares are in 2 barns..lined gold and gen even

    like this one:

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    G3 4704973 sadpsnW8


    I know form the name this girl is even Gen 3 and carries satin, DP, snowflake, and W8.

    My special girls get names. these are often ones I pull eggs from or those I don't pasture breed. Look at this girl:

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    G2 Dark Warrior sadpsnWmG


    I know she Gen 2 satin, DP, snowflake, White M, and the G is for gold.

    Since i'm large I;ve started pasture breeding a lot and only pull eggs from special girls or those that have sentimental value.. I'm weird I know. I usually only give names AFTER they've proven to be awesome breeders.

    I don't breed many fantasy genes, but they have NX or AX
    my few ice are just mixed in since they have other genes I breed as well.. so I really don't care if they cross.. I just keep my Axiom separate.
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    G2 Polaris AXy


    Shes a Gen 2 Axiom AX and the y denotes her color which is yellow
    Post edited by fantasyfarms at 2018-03-11 20:30:33
  • I do the same things as everyone else, mostly putting information in the names. I used to do tattoo's but I find that too much work. I only use tattoo's now for inhouse lines and horses I love to look at (beautiful pictures).

    I try to think of names that come forth of mom and dad or are related to them. I had a 2nd gen stud Valhalla (norse mythology), whose offspring all got norse mythology names. I have a 2gen boy East Bound, so I did names with east, bound, asia etc.
    MS(number) is for the generation. MS Name L are my lined horses. I use KP, GP, SF, DP, NEX and SAT in their names as well to make the special genes they have easy to see. I also put an 'h' in front when they are homo (so MS2 Name hKP is homo KP). I use het or ht when possible to let me know they are hetero for the genes and I use p in front for when they possibly carry them (pKP, pGP etc). I must say I don't really put DP in the names if they have many other genes, since that doesn't fit.
    I also name horses MS Name PAS so I know I want to put them in the pasture at some point.
    I also have special names for horses that I use for embryo implants, they get named zMS so they pop up on top of the list. xMS horses I don't want to breed anymore, either quality wise or because I have too many foals.

    When breeding I always use the search. I search for generation by name (MS3 for example), and if I want to breed my KP's I search MS3 KP in the name. If I want to breed my satins I just put in generation, and then go to the color tab and select 'must have satin'. I also do the same for my stallions. Mostly I have two tabs open, one for a search of my mares (for example 2gen KP's), and one for my stallions (2gen KP's too). And then I just go to the mares page and breed there, after determining which stallion to pair her up with when looking at the other tab.

    At the beginning when I was a small stable I used to plan out my breedings in a word document, and also calculated the costs, but I nowadays don't have time for that anymore (also because nowadays the breeding season lasts the whole haji Year, instead of 1 month when I started) .

    I must say I think this isn't really the best way to do it, because I still have so many horses each season that I don't get to breed because lack of time xD

    So the best way to keep organized is to cull as much as you can, thus keeping the number of horses breedable down as much as you can. I try to go through all my foals at the end of the season and critically look if they fit my goals and quality standards or not.

    HJ1 160524
    HJ2 136

  • I do it as simple as i can for my self. I have two main lines, one High PT-line, that has been with me since I began playing this game 10 years ago, and I have a newer line, that consists of everything fun, from almost all the Kit genes, pearl, champagne, KP, DP, GP all the splashes, Snowflake and Macchiato, tossed into a group. I love to breed them together, and be surprised by all the possible combinations, the artwork, and the diversity they create.

    My high PT-line have all the prefix ZO (short for Zolotaya Orda). And since I was studying russian at uni when I started the game, they are all named after the glossary that I needed to learn at that time. The stallions in that line are named after famous russian cultural personalities (Dostoevsky, Herzen, Tolstoy, Tchaikovsky, Prokofiev etc).
    I use the alphabet to give them name, and every year is a new letter. 1st year: A, and the foals born the next year will all have names beginning with B, then V the next year, etc (I follow the cyrillic alphabeth on this).


    My fun "toss everything in and see what comes out"-line has a different approach. They all have the prefix "x", and since I am learning portuguese now, they are given portuguese names, and the stable name "da Amorosa", after the stable my real horse lives in.

    To separate the generations, I sort them by the alphabet. Foundations are given names that begins with A, 2nd gen. have names that begins with B, 3rd gens C etc. That way, I always know what generations they are, without using a lot of abbrevations.

    For example: Alvalade da Amorosa (foundation mare) may have a daughter called Bailarina da Amorosa (2nd gen), and she may have a daughter called Catita da Amorosa (3rd gen), and the 4th gen may be Damasco da Amorosa etc.

    The good thing with this system, is that I can use my dictionary to find names easy and quick, it is very easy to see which generation the horse is, and I learn a new language at the same time.

    I have a few special horses that I use for pulling eggs, and they have all special names that is not following this rule. That makes them stand out from the crowd, and easy to find in the lab. I usually name them after fantasy and sci-fi-books, like Tolkien, Harry Potter and Dune.
    Post edited by Herzeloyde at 2018-03-12 05:43:10
  • Herzeloyde, that’s impressive! Wanna do mine ;)
  • I also don't keep my lines separate either. I have several LE genes, but I don't keep pastures just for those genes. I just breed by generation. I do try to make sure I maintain LE gene sire lines but I don't keep them separate from my other breeding stock. I just take the "toss them in generation pasture and see what I get" approach.
  • How do you guys make sure later on in ge third and fourth generations you don’t inbreed? Say I breed for w8, and I have multiple different lines, how do you keep them organized 3+ generations down?
  • For instance, I just made a new snowflake stallion last breeding season so I named him PF Snowface. I name any horse who I plan to breed that has a snowflake gene with “snow” in it.
  • Example this colt, who I love for the fact that he involves two outside studs who are not my own. His sire side the name made sense given the two parents, but the damside I felt short in the name department and ended up linebreeding more than I prefer. I know in the game it doesn’t matter, but it is just a personal preference and now I’m considering gelding him because of it. I need to be more careful and I think it starts with naming.

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    PF snowboundddd A 3G
  • I try to use a new foundation stallion every 3rd hajiyear, so using older stallions on younger mares, or the opposite works well. When I choose the stallions to put in the pasture, I take a quick look and see which sire is dominating the group, and then I use a stallion unrelated to them. Sometimes I get inbred horses, and they become show horses, unless the color or breeding ability is spectacular. All must pass SBA, except from brindles, that may pass the regular BA. I need the fun of the rare brindles, so they get a special licence, as long as they pass BA.

    Edit; I love the KitM stallion! KitM is my next gmt-project, can’t wait to collect enough gmts
    Post edited by Herzeloyde at 2018-03-13 16:04:58
  • I always use the prefix HF with the generation, then the last part of the sires name and the last part of the dams name. For example -
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    HF5 Dreamers Rusted


    HF5 Dreamers Rusted is by HF4 Sand For Dreamers and out of HF4 Secret Rusted
    This usually prevents inbreeding in the close pedigree.


    That usually gives me a bit of an idea about the sire/dam lines. If they have a special gene such as kp, I usually add it to either the prefix (HF2kp) or the end of the name (HF5 Duo Lost KP)

    The example you just gave - PF snowboundddd A 3G, I would name PF3 Echo Twice Bound or something similar. For the Dam, I would probably change her name to PF2 Quartze Bound to keep track.

    By putting the generation in with your prefix (PF3 snowboundddd) instead of (PF snowboundddd A 3G) you are saving a bit of space for the name and it makes it really easy to find them in a list, a barn, a pasture, etc. When you hit the sort by name option, it should list all the foals by a certain sire together if they share the same prefix and first part of the name.

    Once I started following this system, it made sorting and breeding SO much easier. I'm sure there are better ways to do it, but that is the way I found that works for me.

    Good luck!
    Specializing high quality dark horses with lots of chrome.
    High Five Acres ~ ID #92912
  • I organize mine by generation and paper level first, then a name I like, then some kind of designation for special colors. So I'll have "2A Name AX" for an A-papered, 2nd generation Axiom stud. I use these behind my names -

    SF for snowflake
    AX for axiom
    NX for Nexus
    sa for satin
    M for Splash M
    I for Ice
    rw for watercolor
    rp for plaid
    TS for thunderstruck

    And for my foundations, I'll put "EP" or "XP" behind the name. Or "RS" for rank special.
    Post edited by McCaslandFarms at 2018-03-13 19:45:05
  • I wonder if that's where I'm going wrong I interbreed all the time. Mostly random pasture
  • I name my horses something that will remind me of the original stallion. So if I have a foundation named Quarky Mischief, the resulting intacts would have part of that in their names so that I know why I kept them intact. Additionally I put a prefix for paper level (mare equivalent on studs) YM, RM, BM, and GM. After that I will put any special gene like nexus is NEX and satin is SA, etc. Finding a system that works best for you is trial and error. It took me many real years to figure out the way I do mine.
  • Thank you everyone for your responses.
    I know I could have named the colt better, but I guess my biggest issue is getting frustrated and naming them something stupid just to give them a name and thinking “I’ll get back to him and re name him”. Nope!

    High Five, you got me thinking. This past breeding season I just finished naming by BS names and was switching from a number I front of my prefix (ex 3PF and 3G at the end). But I see it can save a ton of room by not adding the 3G at the end.

    I love snowflake, probably my favorite gene, but I search for snow in my lines and it becomes a Show because I’m so careless in naming. I try not to be careless, but I really need to get into a solid groove of naming because I do have some nice foundations I don’t want to mess up because I’m not being consistent in naming.
  • To prevent inbreeding I usually pull up the search, type in MS3 for the generation (3rd in this case), eventually add KP/GP if I want to only breed KP's/GP's and then sort by sire name. That way the horses from the same sire are all grouped together, so I can pair them easily with a stud that does not come from the same sire.
    Since I have a lot of different foundation mares the chances are very small they have the same mother somewhere, also because I usually don't use my foundations if they have more than 3 intact foals (unless they have a special gene).

    @veetiepony1: For naming, I sometimes try to translate the name. So for snow you could pull up a translation website and maybe use norse, french, spanish etc. That way you kinda have the same name (snow), but in a different way. And offspring from that 'spanish snow' stud can be named in spanish as well, so you know they are different and have a new way to go with naming (or just name them something like spanish gold, spanish flu, spanish whatever).
    HJ1 160524
    HJ2 136

  • MS - that makes a lot of sense. So many ideas now :)
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  • Since I pasture breed, I don't worry about inbreeding. I accept that risk by choosing to pasture breed. Either it happens, or doesn't.
  • Forestshadow, I think that’s where I am right now.
  • All the pastures. All of them. XD I use the 1/30 pastures mostly, which I find the right balance of affordability to size to flexibility. I do have some bigger pastures that I bought during the one-time "pastures for IVs" event as well as a few I bought when they were on sale that I use for foundations as those breeding don't require much fussing over.

    Breeding stock stays in the pastures from when they become eligible to breed until they age out or are replaced by better ones.

    A barn for each gen of breeding stock.

    I name stallions immediately after they are judged worthy.

    I name mares at 2. I usually do this in tandem while playing WoW...which is why so many of them have Warcraft inspired names. It keeps it from getting too tedious.

    I don't worry too much about naming show horses. Once I finish the mares for the season, I name what showers I can. The usual formula is sire's name + random word that is usually inspired by the dam's name, though not always, ex "Cathexis Kitten". This is why I all my studs also have names that are only single word.
    Post edited by Feather Farms at 2018-03-23 22:12:51
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