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When to stop breeding foundation
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At what point do you all stop breeding your foundation mares?
I am starting to breed 3rd gen now and some of my foundation mares are getting into double digits. I was wondering what everyone else does as each generation ages? -
My plan was to start snipping and have show ponies, once my herd gets a little more robust. If the mare is producing babies I really like, I'd keep her, otherwise I'd snip and ship her to the show barn for the new (and hopefully better!) generations to come :)
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When I have a new foundation stallion I use a lot of foundations mares, but after the first couple of seasons I might only breed the special foundation mares. The ones I've gmt'ed or that have DP etc. Until I get a new foundation stallion anyway LOL!
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Never! Lmao.
I’ve played since 2006. I don’t always create new foundations all the time but I’ve found that when I don’t its so much harder to continue progressing to higher generations since each generation is harder to produce intact offspring. Stopping the foundation blood will reduce the number of higher gens you have a chance at breeding.
For a while I didn’t create any foundations but last November I looked at my herd of breeders and it had dwindled down to a handful of each generation getting smaller and smaller as the older horses of each generation were aging out faster than I could breed replacements.
Throughout December and January I went on a huge create spree on each game and now have 3 groups of mares that I pasture with 2 foundation studs each.
Now looking at my horses I’m seeing more improvement in the size of my generational pools for 2nd-6th Gens and my lonely 7th Gen 12 year old mare is finally starting to have companions in her barn that are breedable this season, she was 10 before I bred colts that have passed testing but they’re still only 2 so in 8 seasons she’s just sat there (I don’t bootstrap or breed unevenly even if it’s the only available option. I’ll wait instead) I found 3 straws for her eggs I’ve collected through the years but they are all altered.Breeding even generation Grullos with KP, Axiom RBG & Wrong Warp, Chinnchilla, Onyx, Phantom Autumn, Bats, Ghosts, Pumpkins, Skulls & Spiders, Plaid, Watercolour genes -
What Bandit said!
Actually, exactly what Bandit said. :) There's a trickle down effect that becomes more pronounced the further down the line you get, and it's really easy for the quality of mares to slip once you get down into those higher generations. I only have a handful of 8th gens, and no 9th, for this reason: I think breeding quality flatlined someplace a while back. And, if you want to introduce a new gene, those usually come on foundations...
The other thing is that a breeding string is like a showing string. Eventually after you've been playing for about a geological age, your string hits true maturity and finds some equilibrium. You need to breed X number of horses because Y number ages out every year, and if X isn't approximately Y, you'll either hit a point where you don't have enough stock to replace what passes, or you'll have to keep buying new barns. (Emphasis here on the keep buying, as more horses = more money.)
In other words you constantly need strong second gen horses to keep producing strong third gens to keep producing strong fourth gens... etc. When you run out of foundation horses, eventually you'll run out of 2nd gens, and then out of 3rd gens, and so on. -
Never! What they said ^^
Plus, I think it's more fun breeding my foundations, as I get more intacts. AND I can add new shinies :DID 195859Thanked by 1Kintara -
I agree with the other posts! I use Strict Breeding Advice on about 99% of my stock, so by the time I hit Gen 4/5/6/7, fewer and fewer remain intact. If I stopped breeding my foundations, I would lose those generations altogether since it is so difficult getting a cross to stay intact (even breeding even generations). Every season I breed my foundations to either my stallions or outside ones with genes I am trying to incorporate into my barn.
So yes - never stop breeding those foundations! Those 2G horses can be great for showing and breeding. :) -
With generations how do i figure it out is it like dam and sire are gen 1 and so on? Can any one explain it if im wrong?
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The foundation horses are any horse you create through the heard helpers. 2nd gen are any foals you breed using two created (foundation) horses. 3rd gen is any foal born from two 2nd gen horses, and so on.
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When you click on the "family" tab for each horse you see a pedigree. A foundation or created horse will have a pedigree that looks like this.
http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=6268569 -
2nd gen will look like this.
Pedigree of illusia
Sired by: Axelrod and Out of: Phantoms voice
View Full Pedigree
Horse Color:Chestnut Appaloosa
Axelrod B
Chestnut Appaloosa Riding Pony
Foundation Horse
Unknown Warmblood
Foundation Horse
Unknown Warmblood
Foundation Horse
Unknown Warmblood
Foundation Horse
Unknown Warmblood
Foundation Horse
Unknown Warmblood
Foundation Horse
Unknown Warmblood
Phantoms voice Yellow
Palomino Splash Warmblood
Foundation Horse
Unknown Warmblood
Foundation Horse
Unknown Warmblood
Foundation Horse
Unknown Warmblood
Foundation Horse
Unknown Warmblood
Foundation Horse
Unknown Warmblood
Foundation Horse
Unknown Warmblood
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Ok so like parents are gen 1 and the baby is gen 2?
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If the parents are ones you created with a heard helper; then yes.
Maybe someone else can explain it better. -
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So would this be 3rd gen then?
http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=7030460 -
Yup, that's third gen. :)
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In an even pedigree each vertical column that has a horse in it will be completely filled with horses.
2 in the first column, 4 the next and 8 in the final column showing.
To count open the pedigree page (or extended pedigree link) and start counting left to right. 1 for the horse, 2nd Gen for the 1st column, 3rd Gen for the 2nd column, 4th Gen for the 3rd and final column showing on the family tab.
5th+ you need to full pedigree page showingBreeding even generation Grullos with KP, Axiom RBG & Wrong Warp, Chinnchilla, Onyx, Phantom Autumn, Bats, Ghosts, Pumpkins, Skulls & Spiders, Plaid, Watercolour genes -
Also I tend to stick with a few foundation studs and switch out the higher Gen studs more often since I get a ton of intact boys I just keep upgrading who I use depending on what they have to offer more than the previous stud for that generation and when my older foundation starts to get close to aging out I search for what other new genes I’d like to introduce to the pot.Breeding even generation Grullos with KP, Axiom RBG & Wrong Warp, Chinnchilla, Onyx, Phantom Autumn, Bats, Ghosts, Pumpkins, Skulls & Spiders, Plaid, Watercolour genes