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Horse Value Question
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I've been told all different things about how to tell how valuable a horse is, my head is spinning. Can someone clear it up for me? I've been told PT is more important, I've been told points are more important, I've been told in-tact horses are money makers, I've been told show horses are the money makers, someone help please! Lol. I have been trying to make money so I can buy another barn with IV's, but every time I manage to get some money it seems to either disappear way too quickly, or just doesn't make a difference. My daily payout was fairly high until my top horses passed, now it seems like I'm getting nothing for the horses I have now. I'm trying to figure out all of this stuff. Help! TIA!
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The standard advice is that you should have at least 3 show horses for every 1 breeding horse in your barn. If those show horses have high PT scores and are winning in their showing classes, they will continue to bring in points, which is what gets you the showing bonus every night.
You have a WHOLE bunch of stallions, and you have them all up for breeding, but you won't make any money that way. You only have 6 mares. Geld the stallions with the higher points and put them in your show barn. Keep one or two for your own personal use, and sell or auction the rest.
Check out the auction and the sales boards. See if you can find spayed or gelded horses under 14 years old with 4-500 points, or more. Set yourself a budget...I try to stay below 3000 hbs for a decent one.
PT and points relate to showing and show horses. PT measures how much the horse gains in every training session, and about how long they will train before they level off/plateau. The higher the PT, the better, but even the Highest PT horse has to start at the bottom. They will move up the training levels faster and keep going longer than a horse with a lower PT. Only horses who are showing can earn points, and points is what gets you that show bonus every night.
Also, check out the FAQ for more information, especially here:http://www.huntandjump.com/faq.php#249Post edited by ConfluenceStable at 2018-11-02 19:00:46
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When starting out a wide range of PT scores is better.
The low pt horses add less points to their show score per training session so they tend to stay in each level longer and have better odds of placing for extra points as they raise up the ranks.
The high PT horse train by leaps and bounds and could skip up into a new level every week until they find their feet (good if they’re placing well but just as likely to be dead last in every class) these horses may not earn a lot of points as they rocket up the levels but once they get into the bigger classes they earn more points per show to make up for it.
There are some low pt horses that are rocking the show pen and there are some high pointed horses that never quite figure out where their feet are in relation to their body or the fake flowers around the ring scare the bejeebers out of them.Breeding even generation Grullos with KP, Axiom RBG & Wrong Warp, Chinnchilla, Onyx, Phantom Autumn, Bats, Ghosts, Pumpkins, Skulls & Spiders, Plaid, Watercolour genes -
I do agree with confluence re: geld the stallions and average 1:3 ratio of breeding : show horses (my average is closer to 1:5)
On hj2 I started a new account last year and trolled the auctions as many times as I could each week. Open the search and click for auction, and advance sort total points.
Open up each horse starting at the top of the search and put a 2600 bid on it. Skip ones that have higher bids. Work down the list until you run out of money to make bids or the daily show bonus of the auction horse is lower than the horses already in your barns.
Check back later in the day and continue bidding 2600 hbs from wherever you left off as you get outbid in the higher pointed horses. Don’t get into a bidding war.
A good way to tell whether a horse is worth bidding on is to divide the purchase or bid price by the daily bonus amount they bring to your barn to see how long it will take for that horse to pay you back.
I bought a bunch of high pointed 16-18 year olds near the beginning of the month, let them earn me as much as they could and put them back in the auction for the end of the month. Most of the higher pointed horses will make more than the 100hbs it costs to buy and flip them (2600bid - 2500auction bidder min= -100hbs)
After the auction I sorted my barns by total points and tossed all the horses left in my primary barn (the lowest pointed horses in my stables) into the next auction. This way I made space for the next batch of auction horses, made money off the horses being sent to auction and over time the daily show bonus was increasing because I was keeping higher pointed horses and selling the horses I could exchange for higher pointed horses.
Post edited by Bandit1119 at 2018-11-02 22:10:54Breeding even generation Grullos with KP, Axiom RBG & Wrong Warp, Chinnchilla, Onyx, Phantom Autumn, Bats, Ghosts, Pumpkins, Skulls & Spiders, Plaid, Watercolour genes