HGG Community Forums

Dapplelight · Nov 12, 2018 6:51 AM

I'm pretty new and still working out how to recognize hidden genes, so I was hoping someone more experienced could help me! :)

I just rolled this bay appaloosa girl. She's hom for Sooty, but she's darker than I've seen, and I've been creating a lot of bay/brown horses (with no, het, and hom sooty) recently. Does she carry DP? Or is this just an especially dark expression of bay?

Thanks in advance!

7301745

Dapplelight · Nov 12, 2018 6:55 AM

For comparison, here are 3 of the other bays I've rolled lately:

Sutton Beauty

Blushing Golden

Idared

SandyCreekAcres · Nov 12, 2018 8:11 AM

I'm not an expert with DP carrying bays. However, she is also Wild Bay, A+, which usually becomes a bright cherry red when DP is present.

Here's one of my Cherry Drop stallions, that definitely carry DP.

Ruby Panacea

I hope someone who breeds for DP bays can stop in and give you an opinion.

Dapplelight · Nov 12, 2018 8:20 AM

Thanks for the perspective! I might just not be very familiar with wild bay heh. The cherry drop example helps a ton, thanks!

Maribo · Nov 12, 2018 8:53 AM

Yeah, she is a pretty StySty wild bay. I love that chocolatey shade :)

SandyCreekAcres · Nov 12, 2018 2:21 PM

What surprised me about her is that she doesn't show the Pangare that she carries. Evidently Wild Bay overrides that particular gene, because a search for horses that have both shows that heterozygous Pp doesn't show up on them. Amazing! You can learn something new on a regular basis playing this game.

Dapplelight · Nov 12, 2018 2:43 PM

I think the lack of any lightening was what threw me off! Thanks for helping everyone :)

Wingedeagle · Nov 16, 2018 1:31 AM

@SandyCreekAcres I think I read somewhere the pangere is resesive? Meaning the unless a horse is pp it won't show. I could be wrong.

SandyCreekAcres · Nov 16, 2018 3:50 AM

No, that is Flaxen, satin, and mushrooom.

Pangare is a complete dominant, meaning that it will affect the horse's appearance when heterozygous P.

MW Stables · Nov 16, 2018 7:55 AM

She does carry DP, I was unsure at first because of the red hue of the Cherry Drop RS but then I remembered I have this Wild Bay mare that carries DP.

Dapplelight · Nov 16, 2018 8:03 AM

Thanks @MW Stables! This is really cool. I'll try breeding her with a hom DP stud when she grows up to confirm, but right now I'm feeling lucky! :x

Wingedeagle · Nov 16, 2018 8:07 AM

@SandyCreekAcres oh my mistake. I wish the gene pages actually showed what the gene looked like written out.

@MWStables "Liver" is only applied to a chestnut horse. A palamino that carries DP will add "chocolate" to its name. But those are the only two colors that get name changes. And from my understanding a Cherry Drop is only bright red because of the wild bay. DP affects regular bay differently.

Wingedeagle · Nov 16, 2018 8:16 AM

@MWStables you canged your comment before mine posted lol.

I wonder why the Cherry Drop is so bright and other wild bays look more chocolatey?

Dapplelight · Nov 16, 2018 8:19 AM

@Wingedeagle Maybe it's the hom Ssty that darkens the red?

Maribo · Nov 16, 2018 9:45 AM

No, the chocolatey ones does not have DP, that is just the StySty. The red ones have DP.

This one is homozygous DP, homozygous sooty:

M1 Cherry Season 2G

Maribo · Nov 16, 2018 9:46 AM

A little skewed by axiom, but you can see the bright red color. The one that has been posted further up is a non DP, homozygous sooty.

MW Stables · Nov 16, 2018 12:45 PM

Sorry @Wingedeagle lol I reread mine after I posted and then had to correct it! I guess I was wrong then, I have been breeding the mare I have to a DP stallion so I could have just gotten it wrong. That's why I had originally posted that DP Bays are more red than just darker in my original comment. I never breed DP Bays if I can avoid it because I'm not a fan of bright red Bays in the game. @Ammit does Wild Bay affect DP or just the extent that Sooty will darken the coat?

Maribo · Nov 16, 2018 1:07 PM

Ammit does not want us to tag her unless it is an emergency, MW Stables :)

Forestshadow · Nov 16, 2018 1:27 PM

Yeah, the only DP I like in bay based coats is if they are brown. I much prefer the chocolatey tones of the non DP bays even though I breed for DP. I just don't like the bright red. Sadly.

Dapplelight · Dec 25, 2018 12:03 PM

Just wanted to update everyone since there was some debate - I checked since DP is in the genre sale today, and this girl does NOT carry DP. Thanks for the help everyone!

paradoxphoenix · Dec 25, 2018 12:52 PM

Wait.... cherry drops are DP?!

Kat8805 · Dec 25, 2018 1:31 PM

She's lovely, nontheless!

Yes, Cherry Drop is homozygous for DP.

Bluegrass26 · Dec 25, 2018 3:11 PM

RS Abes Cherry Tree cherry drop I added homo sooty too

Lioness83 · Dec 28, 2018 11:58 AM

So is a liver chestnut DP? I'm a little confused.

PaintedPonies · Dec 28, 2018 10:27 PM

Yes livers would be DP as well.

Members log in here:
Username:
Password:
By hitting the above you signify that you agree with our rules and conditions.
Forgot your password?

HGG Community Forums

Join our discord server!

Howdy, Stranger!

Categories

In this Discussion

Who's Online (1)

Join our discord server!

Enlarge Your Pastures

Reminders!