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Let's talk price
  • So...for the life of me I cant figure out how to price properly...I know it really depends on each person and what they are looking for and what's hot at the moment and all that, but there has to be some type of range it should go for...

    (Example)
    Supieror, even bred, lined, step up papered stallion/mare price range= _____hbs

    As good as sire, even bred, lined, step up/same papered stallion/mare= _____hbs

    About as good as sire,even bred, lined, stepup/same papered stallion/mare=_____hbs

    Or what about for fantasy Gene's? Such as wrong warp, water color, chinchilla, etc.

    I'm just looking for some advice and I know it's a lot based off how I want to price them and stuff but with me pricing them a A papered supieror wrong warp evenly bred colt is literally only 5k.

    Thank you for taking your time on reading this and helping me out! Have a good day/night.

    Post edited by Fifty at 2019-01-11 16:22:27
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    It happened...again...

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  • I'd say for Ice and Nexus since they aren't closed genes maybe 5k-20k depending on het or hom, and papers and if theyre superior. Obviously *Gold or anything would be more then 20k in my opinion (just because of quality)

    I couldn't give any advice on other Fantasy genes since I've never bought them because of having to have licenses.

    2G and beyond I usually have a base price of 5k (to cover the foaling fee and testing) then add a thousand or two for higher papers, such as A/Blue or B/Red papered (I'd add probably another 3-4k for *Gold/etc.), then any other 'special' gene (special in the sense of maybe pearl, sb2, sable, etc.) I'd add another 500hb maybe. Usually I price my 2-3G around 7,500.

    Now this is just my pricing and opinion so I'm not sure if it holds much weight :)) , and I could be way off in the market. But I hope I helped even a little bit!
  • Disclaimer: this is what I would be willing to pay for these horses. This does not mean that everyone else throws money around like I do.

    Superior, even bred, lined, step up papered stallion/mare price range= depends on generation and paper level. I expect my lines to go C/B/A/A/*Star (or starting with B if they're exceptional foundations) so horses that have whatever gene I'm looking for and meet that criteria are worth quite a bit. Probably starting at about 3-5k for second gen and add an additional 3-5k for each generation up from there, and for genes that have to be added by GMTs I'm often willing to pay an additional 5-10k. For a mare I'd also add another 5-10k.

    So a third generation Blue mare who has passed strict breeding advice and whose quality looks to be better than her (Blue) dam I'd likely spend 15-20k. If she also carries S+ and sb2 (some of my favorites) I'd pay 30-35k. If she had chinchilla, macchiato, or mushroom, then I'd easily spend twice that for a quality horse, but my standards also get a lot higher for genes that I've spent a lot of money on.

    I don't buy horses that don't meet my own breeding goals, so I wouldn't ever purchase a stud that tested AGA his sire.

    Hope this helps! I could be waaaaay off in current market value because I haven't purchased many horses lately. This is only what I would spend, but it's been a long time since I've had to worry about money in this game so if anything these numbers are likely a bit too high.
    Post edited by Helia at 2019-01-11 19:06:46
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  • I rarely sell horses other than RS (those I start at 25k and lower by 2-5 k each day I log in and remember until they are sold) and show horses I put up for 3000.

    Like Helia I don’t have to worry about money (other than hitting the cap) and only buy superior stud colts and mares who’s papers are improving through the line although I allow 3 generations of the same papers.

    I am also particular about colour and wouldn’t buy a liver chestnut thunderstruck macchiato for 2,500hbs but did shell out a few million on a small herd of grullo KP mares and studs each running between 25-125k I think. For sure paid 25-100k each
    Breeding even generation Grullos with KP, Axiom RBG & Wrong Warp, Chinnchilla, Onyx, Phantom Autumn, Bats, Ghosts, Pumpkins, Skulls & Spiders, Plaid, Watercolour genes
  • Ditto what Helia and Bandit said. Many of us breed for specific genes/bone/height/quality and will pay much more for a horse that fits our breeding program.

    I do not buy AAGA stallions unless they are the long lined 13+ pt type. Even then, I'm buying them to test against my own lines and then geld or resell them.

    I've happily paid 250k each for young fillies that had S+, GP, DP, snowflake (all the right genes for my herd combined) and the right base color and the right bone weight for me.
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  • Pricing is definitely a tricky thing! I very rarely sell my horses publicly because I don't want to risk the lines being bred unevenly or risk my standards not being upheld. For that reason, I typically will trade with friends or sell them for a reasonable price to players I know well if I know they'll help out someone's program.

    A lot of us have invested real money into the game so I am more than happy to pay several hundred thousand for the right colt/filly if they fit my program very well (especially with fantasy genes).

    For basic foundations, I typically sell them for create price + testing. Rank specials, it just depends on what they are. I will price some horses on the higher end if I'm not desperate to sell them, but also don't really *need* them.

    I would never buy and "About as good as" colt from someone since I almost never keep them myself (unless they have very special lines - even then, I'll test them a season and if they aren't producing at least slightly better than their sire, they get the snip).

    Pricing definitely seems to be all over the place lately and in my personal opinion a lot of people are undervaluing the worth of their stock. On the other hand, I see a lot of overpricing of horses with uneven lines (for me personally, they have no worth except for show horses so that's just my own opinion).

    Ultimately, pricing is subjective and I don't think you'll find a set standard. I know this doesn't answer your question very well, but I hope it sheds a little more light on at least one more perspective!

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  • Pricing around here is basically a crossroads between how much the owner values a line/horse and how much a buyer values that same line/horse. I personally don't offer much to the public because I have very strict goals for my breeding stock, and prefer to only exchange stock/straws/eggs with players that I already know have similar breeding practices. In which case, things are usually exchanged or gifted, so a value is hard to put a number on.

    I have noticed a huge influx of special genes and modified horses/lines that are being offered at a very low value. You'll find that once something is sold/given away so freely like that, that the line's value won't raise much above it. I personally believe that quality will always hold it's value above quantity, and breed/sell/share accordingly.

    If you are trying to gauge a price on your own horse, the oldest tip is to hold a auction for said horse/straws/eggs. That will give you the best idea of how much any player is willing to pay for that particular item you are selling. Does that mean you'll get that price every time? No, and see my previous statement regarding quality and quantity.

    Lots of great responses here, and I hope all of this feedback helps you in pricing going forward.
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  • There is so many variables, for instance I like Kp, DP and cobs, will pay quite a bit for horses that meet that criteria, and obviously more than that once other special genes are on top of that. For instance a wrong warp riding horse filly is worth nothing to me, but if she was a cob and also had KP and/or DP then she is immediately worth a lot more to me. As good as sire colts aren't really worth anything, not to me anyway

    Superior, even bred, lined, step up papered stallion/mare price range= 10k-100k hbs, will pay more depending on what other genes the horse has

    As good as sire, even bred, lined, step up/same papered stallion/mare= 2500hbs for aga colts, 2500hbs for a red gen3, but say at least 5k for blue gen3's etc

    Uneven horses are also only worth just create price as a show horses to me as well, no matter what the papers, but poorly bred even generations horses only have minimum show horse worth to me as well. I don't consider it worth more being even generation bred. Even generation breeding is only useful if people are actually trying to improve quality with each generation


    Or what about for fantasy Gene's? Such as wrong warp, water color, chinchilla, etc.

    They are all just extras, so these genes on their own might not be worth all that much but combined with all my other likes, sky's the limit!
    Post edited by Kintara at 2019-01-13 14:02:36

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    Breeding quality coloured sport ponies and cobs
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    HJ2 - 145

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