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Cherry Drops are wild bays, which is why they look different than your standard ones

Oh like the GP! How did you get them to look so dark?

And that would make them livers to right? And change the E to e I think.

Bye the way Love your cherries! How is your project going?

Whiskey looks very pretty with the lighter almost white mane and tail! Is that because of the GP or is it flaxen?

This is what happens when you GMT on two Ssty and don't do anything else:

LV1C Redwood King

The DP is showing, it just shows differently on wild bays (A+). That's what makes them so super red. Like Bambi said, if you GMT the A+ into a different agouti gene- A for normal bay, at for brown, and a for black, they act more like you'd expect from a DP horse. Wild bay's kinda weird lol.
To make a liver, you need at least one sooty in addition to the two DPs, and you need ee. The agoutis don't really matter then, they act on black bases. If I changed Redwood's one E to an e, he'd be a black liver. He throws a lot of liver foals as he is, since he gives all his foals one DP and one Ssty, and gives half of them his e. Your mare is Ee too, so she can have red based babies, so long as the sire also has an e.

Cherry Drops are definitely a very good base for GMT work as the only standard frequency Rank Special herd helper that's hom DP, I'm always super excited to see them!

I love using the search to find GMTed cherries for inspiration :)) Here's the link (I omitted fantasy genes and appaloosa for this one, because they can confuse the base coat a little :) ): LINK

Here's one of my cherry drops:

RS CD Kumiho

@Peachtree, Wow that is a Lot of GMing work done on him! And he looks so pretty and kinda has a golden hue I think! I am not big on SB2 or SB1 but I have always like buckskins! Thank you very much for the link! Still learning how to do things like that! I agree with GP on Silver! Very cool!

Amber champagne pearl cherry drop base


Cherry Exhibit

Silver Bay cherry drop base


sn 9105268 DP

Silver Bay dun cherry drop base


sn 9105248 DP

ND1 silver bay cherry drop base


PULL SN 8618592 CHERRY DROP


sn Cherry Ice


sn 9105238 DP

Liver cherry drop base


LVR1c Dark Dreamer CD

I mean Redwood would be a black liver if I changed him to a red base instead of his current black base, because I already added the two sooty genes and he had the two DP by being a cherry drop, which makes the four you need for a black liver. Yours would not be a liver because she has no sooty. They need at least three darkening genes, between DP and sooty, to be a liver, and she only has the two DP, so she'd be a dark chestnut. She'd look like the sooty flaxen chestnut herd helpers, if you changed her to ee right now. Then if you added one Ssty or S+ she'd become a liver, and if you added the other she'd be a black liver (with a flaxen mane and tail and pangare).

Redwood is just a touch more dark and red, I think, but not much. The DP has a very strong interaction with the wild bay, which definitely overwhelms any influence the Sooty has lol.

He was solid black before I changed one Ssty to S+ and made him hom flaxen

I also really like the effect of flaxen on liver chestnuts! @Natalyal1917, S+ seems to really make the dapples show too!

I love my Black livers with flaxen and Pangere

I agree that black livers with non of that just look too black

I have a "Rottweiler" line on my other account


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Lol looks like my Border Collie pupper. People always ask me if she's part Dobe, they don't realize BC's come in black and tan too.
On a sorta sideways related note, the best farm dog we ever had was BC and Rottie. I love those breeds, such smart, hard working, loving dogs.

Oh! How was that job? They're looking for somebody to do that exact job where I live, and I'm thinking about applying. Did you like it? How was working there?

Yeah, pitties can be right up there, but what qualifies as a 'pit' is so all over the board that it's hard to guess.
Juniper (my previously mentioned pupper) is half Border and half Kelpie, which is an Aussie breed similar to (and related to) the Border Collie. We joke that she's 50% BC, 49% Australian BC, and 1% dingo (most Kelpies are about 2-3% dingo). She's smart enough to open gates, mimic the older dog to learn new things, pick up new stuff in literally minutes, and to get uncomfortable when she knows you're talking about her but she can't figure out why.
Prince, the BC/Rottie farm dog, knew how to manage four different species of pest animal very differently, would prevent the farm animals from fighting, would bark and growl when somebody tried to come on to the property by any way other than the driveway, would keep rabbits out of the garden, and wouldn't let anybody get into feed you left out. We didn't actually directly teach him, like, any of that. They're ridiculous.

This is one of my herd sires on the other server that is a cherry drop base.

ST High Standards
hom DP
hom nd1
het prl
het w8
het sty
het S+