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What do you use to help decide which horses to cull?
  • Is it PT? Papering? This is my first breeding season, so please give me your opinions. If you had two comparable horses color-wise, how do you decide? Thanks!
    Ponies by Tuwamare
    Started over!
    Licensed for Phantom Autumn and Height Regulator
    Breeding for Appaloosa, Cream, Tobiano, and Pangare+
    #260138
  • All must pass SBA.I decide first on papering. I have certain requirements for each generation.

    2nd Gen: B or A, Red or Blue
    3rd Gen: A, Blue
    4th Gen: A or Star*, Blue or Gold*
    5th Gen: Star*, Gold*

    After that, if I have too many still, I decide on Inconsistent versus Consistent. Keeping Consistent or asking myself if it’s worth GMTing them to be Consistent, or if they’re worth keeping and not GMTing them.

    Asking who the parents are and if I’ll ever get something like this again (are both parents still available, is this a cross I would want to repeat if I could, etc).

    I don’t cull based on PT scores in my breeding line, only in my show horses. I only keep show horses above 10.30 at the moment, and that number is always going higher.
    Post edited by LCorona001 at 2019-11-09 13:01:49
    Licensed for Onyx, Watercolor, Plaid, Mushroom, Splash M, Phantom Autumn, Ice 4, Ice 16, and Chinchilla - ID: 256300
  • for breeding horses, they must pass SBA (strict breeding advice), both mares and studs must be suprior to stay intact. If i end up getting say 3 or 4 A papered or Blue papered horses in a row from generation to generation, something's gone stagnant and i try to weed them out. Keep all spays/gelds as show ponies to fund next breeding season, rinse and repeat :)) A lot of players have strict PT-by-generation goals and will also spay inconsistency, but i'm more lenient with those ones lol. as long as they are superior to sire/dam i don't mind.

    If i had 2 comparable colour wise, i'd test against sire, against other horses of the same generation, and if they were entirely identical I'd either just keep both or pick one whose lineage i like better :)

    as for 'culling' i really dont, i keep all of them. the longer you keep show ponies, the more points they earn, ei more hbs. I generally only cull 18 yr olds right before rollover that are showing at the bottom of thier classes

    i just finished a night shift i hope this makes a bit of sense :))
    HJ1: 133971
  • At first I bred whatever to whatever until I figured out my goals.

    So what are your goals? The best part of this game is that there is no wrong answer to that question everyone can have their own goals and requirements.

    You can choose to try to breed the highest PT horses (or the lowest), breed for the highest papers, or you can breed for the tallest drafts or the shortest ponies (or breed from one side of the scale to the other in the same line), or you can choose to focus on the bone weight and see how tall you can get a horse with the lightest bone weight (or the chunkiest midget pony)

    And whatever you choose you can change your mind over and over again if you choose.



    Culling (I only alter and throw into the show barns not get rid of) is super easy for me when I have a checklist. Foal doesn’t fit the requirement it gets snipped no ifs ands or buts.

    But I’ve been around long enough and built up my herd so I can afford to be super strict on what I do and don’t keep because I average 800 foals a month (plus or minus a 100 or so).

    First off I whole heartily believe in using all the testing you have available (especially anything free).

    So I use strict breeding advice on all my foals first (from the barn page) so I don’t see any and think maybe I won’t test that one because it’s so perdy.

    Next I breed for colour Grullo. So I gene test everything and use the search page to alter anything that isn’t E? aa D? Which is basic grullo genetics. Over the years I’ve started getting stricter on my studs and they must be EE aa DD

    Then I PT test everything and alter any inconsistent foals

    Previously I would then go through and add prefixes to all my intact mares and throw them into their breeding generations barn and then every few months go through and snip any low papering mares (I only keep the top 2 papers of any generation and the top paper if it starts to be the majority) but I just finished comparison testing all of my mares so they will continue on with the boys and be comparison tested to their Dam and superiors will earn their Prefix. And then all papered

    The colts get papered and then I go through each stud and trim out the low paper foals and comparison test the rest (I only keep 1 paper level for each stud and weed the intact colts down to 3 superiors.) once I’ve comparison tested all the colts I will go through each generations breeding age studs and pick which will be in the pastures from the rest I will keep 3-5 of each particular gene I breed for (axiom RBG, Plaid, Nexus, KP) and cull the rest.
    Post edited by Bandit1119 at 2019-11-09 12:57:47
    Breeding even generation Grullos with KP, Axiom RBG & Wrong Warp, Chinnchilla, Onyx, Phantom Autumn, Bats, Ghosts, Pumpkins, Skulls & Spiders, Plaid, Watercolour genes
  • Liver Requirements
    - Foundation: Pass SBI, 9+ PT, at least het DP
    - G2: SBI, S+, 9.5+ PT, hom DP, B/Red, test Superior
    - G3: SBI, S+S+, 10+ PT, hom DP, A/Blue, test Superior
    - G4: SBI, S+S+, 10.5+ PT hom DP, *Star/Gold, test Superior

    Silver Bay Requirements
    - Foundation: Pass SBI, 9+ PT, at least het DP
    - G2: SBI, Z, 9.5+ PT, hom DP, B/Red, test Superior
    - G3: SBI, ZZ, 10+ PT, hom DP, A/Blue, test Superior
    - G4: SBI, ZZ, 10.5+ PT hom DP, *Star/Gold, test Superior

    I'm considering easing the paper restrictions for G4, so far I'm just not getting enough that pass. But, time will tell, and who knows where I'll be by the end of the season?
    ID #238663, she/her pronouns
  • I have several goals.
    1. Black non-cream based Appaloosas. So all red horses get culled. Then the rest are based on a combination of passed SBA, PT Score, papers. Finally if there are equally qualified horses and I don't have space, then it depends on the Appaloosa pattern.

    2. My Snow Tiger line will be geared towards homozygous snowflake and homozygous tiger eye. I'm allowing red horses in that line for now as long as they pass all tests and carry the desired genes. Eventually I'll weed out the red there as well.
  • Thank you, everyone! This advice is invaluable to me. :)

    So far I do all the testing available on every horse, except the comparison...don't have enough hbs built up to do that consistently. My first goal is colorful ponies...so I'll be able to trim it down from there once I find that sweet spot I really love. I do have to cull at the moment because of lack of barn space, but I certainly see your point of just keeping all the show horses to build up funds. Thanks again!
    Ponies by Tuwamare
    Started over!
    Licensed for Phantom Autumn and Height Regulator
    Breeding for Appaloosa, Cream, Tobiano, and Pangare+
    #260138

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