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SheWolfMustang27 · Feb 13, 2020 3:28 PM

Working with a new 2g S+ KP stud and crossed him on some of my red S+ mares. Resulting fillies in question have 2 kit & 1 KP gene but papered red and passed all testing. Genetically I like them. Just not sure if should spay them or keep them and breed them to an A paper stud when they age up. What would you do? Thoughts and opinions welcome. TIA.

LenasHollywood · Feb 13, 2020 4:11 PM

My rule is when in doubt, always spay/geld.

SilverCreekFarm · Feb 13, 2020 4:41 PM

i agree with above, when in doubt, get the snipping scissors out :))

Taliesin · Feb 13, 2020 4:43 PM

You're talking about 3G mares, correct? For me personally, anything less than A/Blue by gen three is an automatic snip. I have too many horses to be keeping lower quality foals, even if they have nice genes.

SheWolfMustang27 · Feb 13, 2020 6:11 PM

Thanks all. You voiced my initial thoughts. Ugh, self-doubt struck again. @SilverCreek lol. I love that little rhyme. @Taliesin yes, 3g mares. I don't have a lot of intacts that I breed but I do want to keep quality. Thanks again.

Bandit1119 · Feb 13, 2020 9:53 PM

Also whenever posting questions about particular horses it’s always best to post a link (or the bit of code at the bottom of the horses page to show a picture too) so that we can answer questions more realistically rather than theoretically.

Personally I allow each paper level 3 generations to move up as long as they are comparison testing Superior. (Other than Yellow that is only allowed in foundation). For each genera I only keep the top 2 paper levels until I build up a good herd and start to get more of the higher papers then I’ll go through and snip the lower papered ladies.

Kintara · Feb 13, 2020 10:45 PM

What is your 2G stallion? Is he A papered? If B papered is he superior to an exceptional B papered foundation? If not either then you are going to have trouble getting blue/A 3G. Not impossible, just uncommon. If all you got was red fillies, I'd compare them to their red dams and maybe keep the superior ones?

Kintara · Feb 13, 2020 10:45 PM

Once you get some blues, then you can spay the reds

Forestshadow · Feb 13, 2020 11:22 PM

When I started out, I kept 3rd gen red fillies until I started getting 3rd gen blues consistently, then I started weeding out the reds. Now I spay all 3rd gen fillies that paper red because I don't need them, I get more than enough blues to fill my pastures then some, and I started with C/yellow, then went B/Red for 2nd gen. The key is to keep only superior foals because those are the ones that will progress your lines in quality.

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