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Bay Line Question
  • so this mare has a weird Bay line of t/t ?? is it because she is a CandyApp? I know it throws colors off on the freaky Friday's but wasn't sure if t /t instead of a/a ment something else entirely
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    LG Candy Apple
    Anni9

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  • It means she carries brown genes. Candy Apples carry Brown. Like my guy here.image
    Apple Appaloosa Candy
    Post edited by Katiedid at 2020-03-18 14:05:42
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  • The bay genes, in order of dominance, are A+ (wild bay), A (bay), At (brown), and a (black)

    I think, if I remember right, that all Candy Apples are At/At (which shows up as t/t on the new gene test readouts) which means they are brown and don't carry black. Freaky Fridays are a/a, which means that if
    they also have an E
    they are black.

    Black based or red based is determined by the first spot. E/e, e/E, or E/E will make a black based horse, and then the bay genes determine what kind of black based. If they're e/e then they're red based, or chestnut based, and the bay genes don't affect their color at all.

    So since Freaky Fridays are a/a, they will be either black or chestnut, depending on whether they get an E or not
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    LG FreakyFriday

    Talesin thanks for the answer ; am guessing that's why my Freaky girl is alive and liver ? cuz she should be dead and white lol
    Anni9

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  • Thanks Also Katiedid ; was just weird seeing the tt line on a buckskin
    Anni9

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  • Okay so, Candy Appies are brown, but a brown that lucks into a cream gene is a buckskin. There isn't a separate name for bays vrs. browns with cream, they're both buckskin. The RNG gods just saw fit to bless yours with a cream, making her buckskin rather than brown

    And Freaky Fridays- Foundations don't die because of lethal genes. You can GMT as many lethals onto one foundie as you please and they will remain perfectly healthy and breedable. Somebody did that, actually; stacked as many lethals as they could on one stud without essentially guaranteeing his foals would inherit a lethal combo. That horse would be dead four times over, lol. I wish I remembered who that was. It's the lined foals you breed that run the risk of lethality.
    And some Rank Special Herd Helpers include impossible combos of genes, which would be lethal if you bred them in a lined horse. This is from the description for Yule Log Ashes, for example:
    A little left over holiday magic makes them exceptional producers and carry the impossible white 1 and white 2 combination.

    And Freaky Fridays are homozygous frame, because anything can happen on Friday the 13th! That doesn't make any of them lethal, but if you bred two unmodified Freaky Fridays together you would 100% lose the foal. As far as that she looks white, it's because we have to extrapolate what a homozygous frame horse would look like, since they don't actually exist. It hypothetically would make them all white. But under that, she's still a liver chestnut. If you took one of those frames off, like Visions did with this girl, suddenly she'd be liver chestnut with frame markings from the one remaining frame gene.
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    V FF Alnwick

    And actually, now that I look at yours, she has a white factor of 'none', so if you took off one frame she'd probably have very minimal frame markings similar to Alnwick's
    Spiderweb Stables
    ID Number: 238452
    He/Him pronouns
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  • Cool Thanks!!
    Anni9

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  • Here’s a regular candy Appaloosa without the cream
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    Candy appy9835841
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