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That is normal for a 17YO yes.
I *believe* its after they turn 13 or 14 you start to see a decline in their overall daoly payout. This is because a horses "lifetime" in this game is 18yrs. And if they live past 18, their lifetime payout is then for each month since theyre at risk of passing at rollover.

This mare, for example. She is holding 2,200 points & she is showing well. So not only is she paying you 238hbs a day just to be in your barn, she is also making money winning completions. In this case, I would heavily advise you to hang on to her rather than sell her (she will make more for you than you would by just tossing her to auction).

Age and payout are relative terms too. I have some 11YO show horses showing at 8W with a 321point score with a lifetime pay of 22/23k (daily payout vs days left until they turn 18 years old) but I also have horses that are foundations leveled at 7w with 1100pts and a 17k payout.

Typically when they start to level off (check their pt score, it gives you a rough age that their point gains will slow down until they "level off") is when you can then go through a culling so to say. For example, maybe one horse has 300pts and is showing at the bottom of 6w, so theyre not earning you much in terms of showing (as well as daily payout). But flip side, you have one like this girl with 2,200 pts, leveled off top of her class, and is not only a high point holder but a good shower.

I hope this makes sense. Ask away, we are here to help!

Just because their payout is low doesnt necessarily mean they're worthless. Again if they hold a bunch of points they will payout over their lifetime past 18 it just won't show on their page

@Forestshadow i cull my show horses too at 17, as from there on they have a risk of passing each year so you can better make the 2500 hbs from the auction than just have them disappear at rollover.

However, I do keep 17yrs old with more than 1000 points. It is a bit of a gamble but as I am a big barn I can afford to keep them around. Because there are some horses that keep surviving rollover and thus keep bringing me money in terms of daily payout and showing (I do cull those 17yrs with 1000+ points if they do not show well as they do not increase in points much and thus not increase in daily payout).

Otherwise I never could have got this fella as my highest pointed horse with over 3000 points:

MS SHOW HPT L 6886135

The way I cull showhorses is to sort my barns on PT and then just check every horse that has an age around their PT, starting with 10yr olds as that is the point where you can sell them in the auction for their lifetime payout. So for a PT of 11 I look at 11 year old horses and older, for a PT of 12 I look at 12year old and older etc. It is a bit time consuming but I like to nitpick haha.

It also works in the search (much quicker): sometimes when i dont have much time i just pull up a search for a specific age (starting by age of 17 and working down to 10) and sorting them by their points, that way you can auction off the lowest points.

Only thing is that high PT show horses (say a PT of 12/13etc) only level off around that age. At age 10 they could be on the low end regarding their amount of points and daily payout, but once they level off they will rake in the show points as they compete in the higher levels (8N/8W) and even if they score low (place 15th out of the 20 show entries in 8W) they still score 10 points and if they place first they score 38 points. Whilst one level lower (7W) if they are 15th out of 17 they only get 4 points and 32 points in first place, in 6W is they place 15th out of 16 they only get 2 points and first place is 30 points, well you get the drill.

So always look at their PT and if they are leveled off already or not when you decide to cull them. They might not have reached their final potential yet and thus might be money makers in the making!

I tend to look at where a horse is placing in shows for my culls. If a horse is 17 (and has a low payout as a result), but is still placing in the top half of their class), I normally hold onto them since they'll make more money from their show fees in addition to their daily payout. A horse over ten that has leveled out at the bottom? into the auction so I can collect that lifetime payout without having to wait for it.

Yeah, the criteria I used on my search when I was looking at my older show stock was all time points. Generally, the horses that didn't have a payout of at least 2500 had a daily bonus of 100 or less.