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How much did it cost you to make that Stud?
At the basic level, that stud probably cost you at least $2,500 to create, and then $1,600 to $9,000 for testing ($100 for Genetic Testing, $500 for Performance Testing, $1,000 for Breeding Inspection, and $4,000-$8,000 for Comparison Testing). So a foundation stallion typically costs $4,100 to create, and Lined Stallions tend to cost more because now you have breeding fees, vet fees, and higher testing fees.

If a stallion cost you a lot to breed or purchase, you might consider spreading out their cost in their stud fee. For example, if a stallion cost me $30,000 to purchase, I might distribute that cost over an average of 10 breedings a season for 3 seasons. So that would be $30,000/30 breedings = $1,000 added to my studs fee.

Herd Helper Breeding Bonuses (Foundations Only)
Each Herd Helper is on a Foundation horse, and as a Foundation horse, some of them give you better breeding bonuses than others. These are the Basic foundation types for breeding and are ranked as follows.

Top Notch Producers: All horses have 100% breeding ability. They will be great sires and dams.
Perfect Foundations: All horses will have 100% training ability, 100% breeding ability, and perfect consistency. They will be great at showing and producing foals.
Exceptional Producers: These horses will be exceptionally good parents compared to other foundations. They will have greater than 100% breeding ability.
Exceptionally Perfect: Not just perfect, but exceptionally perfect. These horses can train higher and produce better offspring than normal creates. They will have greater than 100% breeding ability and greater than 100% training ability. They also will have perfect consistency.

Exceptional Producers and Exceptionally Perfect foundations have the same Breeding Ability, however Exceptionally Perfect horses start with PT at 10.40, and Exceptional Producers PT is randomly generated. Depending on your breeding goals, an Exceptionally Perfect horse might be valued more.

Many Rank Special Herd Helpers are considered Exceptional Producers or Exceptionally Perfect, but they won't say it on the horse. To find out you need to look up their Tattoo information here.

Starting Stud Prices for Basic Foundation Horses
In a previous thread I suggested that different herd helper bonuses be valued at different rates. We've previously established that it cost us at least $4,100 to create and test our Stallion. And if a stallion can breed up to 50 times a season, you will easily recoup that expense. Your stallion might not publically breed for all 50 sessions, you could have used some of those breedings for yourself, or maybe he wasn't as in demand as other stallions.

Pro Tip: Every season the game takes down our Studs, so the sooner you have them listed, the sooner people can breed to them. Try and have your Stallions listed for Stud on the 1st of each month. And consider advertising them a week before to let people plan ahead.

Suggested Starting Price for Basic Horses
Normal Foundation Horse = $250
Top Notch Producer = $500
Perfect Foundation Horse = $750
Excellent Producer Foundation Horse = $1,000
Exceptionally Perfect Foundation Horse = $1,500

What is a Basic Horse?
For the purpose of this article, I consider a Basic horse to be a Foundation with simple genetics:
Black: E,e ; Bay: A, a, +, t ; Cream: Cr ; Dun: D ; Grey: G ; Flaxen: f ; Sooty: Sty ; Pangare: p ; Silver: Z ; Champagne: Ch ; Kit Genes: R, TO, W20 ; Splash: SW1 ; Appaloosa: LP ; Appaloosa Blanket: PATN1 ; Frame: O

In recessive form, these genes are common and easy to come by. However where I can see them adding value to a Basic Horse is when they are Homozygous.

For GMT Modified Stallions
GMT's allow us to customize and alter our horses color. While it costs us Play Cash and/or Real Cash, we won't always be able to recoup the expense.

Suggested Increase for Stud Fee
Recessive / Homozygous
Pearl = $400 / $2,000
Non-Dun1 = $400 / $2,000
Sooty + = $4,000 / $20,000
Silver = $200 / $1,000
Champagne = $200 / $1,000
Roan = $200 / $1,000
W1 = $200 / $1,000
W2 = $400 / $2,000
W3 = $1,000 / $5,000
M = $4,000 / $20,000
SB1 = $600 / $3,500
SB2 = $1,000 / $5,000
W8 = $1,000 / $5,000
W10 = $1,000 / $5,000
Splashed White 1 = $200 / $1,000
Splash White 2 = $400 / $2,000
Splash White 3 = $1,000 / $5,000
Splash White M = $3,000 / $15,000
Rabicano = $200 / $1,000
Gulastra Plume = $1,000 / $5,000
Kit Promoter = $1,000 / $5,000
Kit Promoter 2 = $2,000 / $10,000
Satin = $4,000 / $20,000
Dense Pheomelanin = $1,000 / $5,000
Tiger Eye 1 = $600 / $3,500
Tiger Eye 2 = $1,000 / $5,000
Chocolate = $3,000 / $15,000
Appaloosa = $200 / $1,000
Appaloosa Pattern 1 = $200 / $1,000
Snowflake = $2,000 / $10,000
Frame = $200 / $1,000*

A note on Frame - the only horses in the game that are homozygous for Frame are the Freaky Friday Herd Helpers.

Example Stallion Below

CF Wap N Roll
Exceptionally Perfect Foundation Appaloosa Stallion
Genes: E/E , t/a , S+/S+ , -/p , DP/DP , LP/LP , PATN1/PATN1
Stud Fee: $28,700

Stud Fee Breakdown
Exceptionally Perfect Foundation Horse = $1,500
Black E/E = $200
Sooty + = $20,000
Dense Pheomelanin = $5,000
Appaloosa = $1,000
Appaloosa Pattern 1 = $1,000

If 1 GMT = $125,000 hb’s and $100,000 hb’s = $1 USD, then he cost me 13 GMT's and $1,000,000 hb's ($10 USD) for a total HB value of $2,625,000 hb's. If he publically breeds an average of 10 times a year, for 13 seasons he will have earned me $3,731,000. He would have earned me over $1,000,000 in his lifetime from breeding.

@Brandybrookes I forgot about those! I will have to research more. I can calculate their value based on what it cost to buy the boost, but I need to look into how much of an actual impact they have on offspring.

Boosted Stallions

Wow this great!

I will have to work more on this during the weekend.

For fantasy genes, It depends on the gene and where it can be purchased (if at all). If you happen to know what Ammit sold the gene for, if it was limited edition, you can then just convert $100,000 hb’s per $1 USD, and then factor in the number of breeding seasons the horse has left.

Some of the less in-demand genes may require some researching into the market, seeing what horses are being offered for stud currently, or how much they are selling for. But do this at your discretion, because many horses will be priced for only a couple hundred dollars, and drag the market down.

For 2 DNA strands...hmmmm. Maybe add the value of both and divide by 2, unless they are the same. It's still 50/50 which strand the foal inherits from.

Additionally, if a horse is heterozygous, I've been valuing it at a 1:5 ratio. With a heterozygous gene being worth 1/5 th the value of a homozygous gene.

This is super helpful, thank you!! Definitely going to help me price my boys on Forest (who tend to have fancier genes haha) and here too!

I booked marked this discussion and I think everyone else should because this is so good!

@HarmonyC there is a Star up at the top on the same line that says "Tips & Tricks for Pricing Your Studs"

See this post for more information https://www.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/comment/182662#Comment_182662

What about Dun Factor Promotor 1 & 2?

I have been checking market to see what others are selling for before pricing mine lately. But I also say make me an offer for any one really wanting it. But this is really helpful information thanks

Thank you for this!

Bumping this :)

I like your article but have a few questions. On your above listed srallion, if I read it right, would be studded out for 28000.

How do you get people to breed for that?
Heck I barely have people even look at anything I post, or breed to one of my studs for 5 or 10, much less 28000?

Hey, can I ask someone if I've calculated this guy right?

it's saying 47.4K, should i take that as an estimate and lower it? I haven't seen a stallion for that much, so I'm assume i just lower it.


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Thanks, @annismyrph! Knew it was here somewhere!