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  • Hey everyone so I have a few questions. What is the meaning behind the breeding scores (A.B.BLUE.YELLOW.RED.FAILED)? Does each one mean something? What are good things to look into when breeding the horses? How much do horses sell for on average?
  • most horses sell at 2500 and they will always auction for a minimum of that. Pointed creates can sell for up to half their lifetime payout, they will auction for a minimum of their Life Pay when they are 10 years old. RS can sell at anything from 2500 to 500K depending on how rare they are (most 'special event only' ones sell for 20K and higher) and if they get lucky genes (DP, H, snow) that aren't included in the HH. Horses that have been GMT'd sell for much more.

    You don't really have to worry about papering until you have a basic upgrade. Higher papers produce higher pt foals. Mare (showable only, yellow, red, blue gold (best)) Stallions (failed, c, b, a, star (best))

    Expro/perf creates are b/red so I would recommend never breeding anything below that unless you have a specific reason to do so.
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  • You have a better chance of foals passing Breeding Advice if their parents are evenly matched paper levels. The papers give you an idea of how good a breeding horse will be.

    So, C to Yellow, B to Red, A to Blue and Star to Gold are going to give you the best chance a foal could pass Breeding Advice. That being said, it also gives you an idea of the quality of show horse you will get. The higher paper levels produce higher PT scores. The higher PT score horses end up finishing in higher show levels.

    Things I look for in breeding is matching papers and generations (foundations are creates, lined horses I organize by each generation).

    The big key to this game is show horses. You will not make money by breeding and selling horses. You make money by your horses showing, earning points which then increase your daily payout. Keep those foals. Let them train and show, grow up, and they are your money earners. More money,the more breeding fun you can have.
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  • Just remember to geld them
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    Other: everything but SPM and jewel
  • Oh my. Thank you guys for responding. Why would they need to be geld?
  • Horses that are gelded or spayed train a little bit better than when they are intect. They ill end up at a slightly higher show level, which could mean more points. That being said, still show everything you can. My stallions still show so they can earn points even though their main goal is to produce foals for me.

    I think most people have success when you keep a ratio of 1 breeding horse to 3 show horses.
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  • Okay good to know. Thank you
  • How would one go about breeding a star or gold level?
  • Wait 2 years. lol...well you could buy them or you can breed into it usually around 5g I think. I'm focusing on b/red though I did keep one vanilla a stud so I could get passing foals from a couple of blue fillies. You also want to keep your studs to a minimum.
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    Other: everything but SPM and jewel
  • Neutered horses train for a game year longer than intact horses with the same PT score do.

    Paper everything. If you're starting from foundations, neuter any colts or fillies that paper the same as their sire or dam. Comparison Test colts to their sire even if they paper higher, because they might still be about as good as the sire. Comparison Test colts that paper the same as each other. If two of them paper about as good as each other, you might want to try breeding both of them to see what happens. If one of them test superior to its brothers with the same paper level keep him intact and neuter the others. Then test any remaining foals with that paper level against the superior one.

    I have personally had a C papered stallion produce B papered foals and found that some B colts tested superior to the ones I had already tested and then a bit farther down the list I've found a B colt that tests superior to those mid-range B colts.

    The same procedure should be done with fillies, now that we can comparison test them. (When I first started playing, only male game horses could be comparison tested).

    Once you've determined the best of your second generation colts and fillies, breed them and comparison test all offspring. Usually, you can go from C/Yellow to B/Red in one generation. You can sometimes get A/Blue in third generation, but if the second gen horses are not right at the top of those paper levels, it can take 2 generations. It may take more than one generation to advance from A/Blue to *Star/*Gold. (I don't have much experience with that shift because my horses tend to be foundations and 2nd generation). However, once you get to *Star/*Gold, you will find that succeeding generations will improve. T

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  • Starting with exceptional foundations (B/Red), it takes me 4 generations to start to get Star/Gold foals. By 5th generation, everyone is Star/Gold.

    What I did to to help get lines started was buy lined horses. I bred those to give me some higher papered stock and higher PT scoring foals for variety. But it is much more satisfying to breed my horses that have all my foundation horses in their pedigree too.
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  • You can get A/blue in 2gen but it's rare, I have a stallion and 3-4 fillies in three seasons of breeding. also never paper foundies top pro and perf are high end yellow experf/pro are red.
    Post edited by boredaf at 2021-06-22 17:42:56
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    Other: everything but SPM and jewel
  • I've gotten 2nd gen A and Blue out of C x B crosses or B x Yellow crosses. Generally, I start with C/Yellow stock with B and Red mixed in. I find it helps progresses my lines better. I expect Star/Gold at 5th gen, and I keep only A/Blue at 3rd gen. Star/Gold at 4th gen is just a bonus for me. I comp test every foal that pass SBA intact to their parents and keep only superior.

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