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Lethal White Question
  • I have read the lethal white guide in the FAQ, but I still don't know if I can safely breed this horse to a wide array of mares.
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    Vanadium

    He is chimeric, but both sets are homozygous for splash and have one copy of SB1. I am trying to breed for splash, but I know that there can sometimes be issues. I see neither in the lethal white table, but I don't know if these genes are used under different names on this site. Do I put another horse in the pasture for tomorrow to increase the odds of live foals?
    Game number 273531
    Licensed for Ice 9, 13, 17, and 18, Shatterglass, Nacre, Paintbrush Cool, Axiom Blue, Chinchilla, and Watercolor
    Breeder of Black Tobiano, Sabino, and Bay Kit M
    Sale Barn: https://www.huntandjump.com/member.php?uid=273531&b_id=38569
  • In the FAQS Guide ( https://www.huntandjump.com/faq.php ) about 9 or 10 pages down is the Punnett Square that shows the Lethal / Non Lethal genes for White
    White 1 is (W) and i think Splash M is (M), SB1 and 2 are both there also
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  • Regular Splash is safe with everything (Splash 1), Sabino 1 is potentially lethal with W3 and Is lethal with both W1 & W2. Sabino 2 is pretty much the same as well. I'm not an expert on the Splashes but I believe that Splash 2 is Hom lethal & potentially lethal with Splash 3 (same for Splash 3). I have no idea about Splash M though, hope that helps!
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  • Avoid mares who have W1 or W2 because of his sabino 1 gene. Mares with W3 might be okay but there's a low risk of a lethal foal. Splash 1 is not lethal with anything as far as I know. Splash 2 and 3 are homozygous lethal with themselves (if there are two copies of splash 2 or two copies of splash 3, the foal will not be viable).

    The M on the risk chart is for Kit M ;)

    Splash M isn't lethal with anything as far as I know.
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  • Splash 1 is completely safe with every gene in the game. SB1 is lethal* with W1, W2, and W3.

    *I don’t do percent chance of the combo being lethal. For me, any risk is too much risk, so I never cross anything unless it is 100% safe. I’ve never lost a foal :)
    I’m autistic and I struggle with any kind of communication, so I apologize in advance if I say anything rude or offensive because there’s a 99% chance that I have no clue I did it. I appreciate your patience with me!
  • Here's a link to the chart of Kit mutations giving the lethality ratings for each combination with every white factor. It does not include the lethality of the Splash varieties, nor does it address the lethality of homozygous Frame. There as a later update that included some lethality of the two Sabinos with certain other Kit mutations, as mentioned above. This chart is dated in December 2016.

    https://www.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/16695/lethal-kit-combinations-have-been-drasticly-updated#Item_6

    Generally speaking, the more white on the parents, the greater the chance of enough white to be lethal to the foal.
    Post edited by SandyCreekAcres at 2021-09-13 20:28:28

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  • This newbie thanks you for all your advice, as this game can be overwhelming at times. Vanadium sired five healthy foals today.
    Game number 273531
    Licensed for Ice 9, 13, 17, and 18, Shatterglass, Nacre, Paintbrush Cool, Axiom Blue, Chinchilla, and Watercolor
    Breeder of Black Tobiano, Sabino, and Bay Kit M
    Sale Barn: https://www.huntandjump.com/member.php?uid=273531&b_id=38569
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