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I'm not sure if this would count as an explanation of Ice dominance or not. I added all the genetic Ice combos I could find at the time. It was originally posted 5/21.

bluchrystals
ID# 247338
Ice dominance

https://www.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/comment/266213#Comment_266213

Oh boy I ain’t th best but here we go!

How to use straws& to collect straws! By GildedFire ID 246052


New players! Just got your first basic upgrade? Want to know how to use straws? Look no further! I am here to help. In order to use straws you must have a basic upgrade.

Go to the “Advanced Facilities” tab, then click “Advanced Breeding Lab” after clicking that you get a whole bunch of options.

One option which is for basic members and premium is you get to collect straws from your stallions and it lists each and everyone now if your someone like me ( I have over 170studs). The mass straw pull is for premium members only which is this next part. There is a handy dandy scroll list right above the listed studs and you can choose how many you want to pull by putting in the number instead of just pulling one at a time (each straw is 500hb to pull).


Now to use them you click the “Use A Straw” option right next to “Collect Straws” it will pull up the “Pick A Mare” option and “Pick Your Stallion” which will reveal if and any straws you have stored available for use. And the mare option is for any inbred mare you own. And then from that menu you also get to name the foal ( I use # as it auto puts the name as the horses ID number as the name).

I hope I explained using straws well.

kgstable
ID# 234395

How do Phantom Genes Work?

Phantom genes are fantasy genes in the game (meaning they do not exist in real life genetics). All phantom genes only require one copy to show (heterozygous). However, most phantom genes will show best on white markings (excluding appaloosa), white markings such as KIT genes such as w, w1, w2,, w3, M, w8, w10, w20, Sabino 1 & 2, tobiano, and roan, as well as non-KIT white markings like Splash and Frame. Some phantom genes such as Web and Lace (and occasionally others) will show on solid colors of your horses as well!
Each phantom gene requires a separate license to breed and buy. You are not able to get phantom genes through the gene modification lab at this time but they are offered occasionally in the Roving Gene Sales for $5.

Hope this helps explain Phantom genes more!

HelenofTroy #228534

Explanation of IVs, Exchanging HBs for IVs & a Brief talk of GMTs

HBs= Horsebucks the in game currency

IVs= Investment Vouchers used for purchasing Tack Packs, Boosts, Barns, GMTs and a 30 day basic upgrade.

GMTs= Genetic Modification Tokens

HBs can be exchanged for IVs under the “Upgrade” tab on the left of your screen. And then by clicking on the first option “Voucher Exchange”

Once you have clicked on that, it will open a page called “Investment Voucher Manager”. Here you can exchange 12,500hbs for 1 IV; be careful and calculate your exchange before you submit it, if you’re not careful, you’ll end up exchanging all your HBs for IVs and not have much left (personal experience!) that number in bold is the max amount you are able to exchange for.

If you are looking to purchase, through IVs, a GMT, it will cost 10 IVs, 10 IVs costs you 125,000hbs. Keep this in mind as that helps set up the equation used to calculate how many IVs you want when on the exchange page to avoid going to that max amount.

Amount of IVs wanted/needed x 12,500 = the amount of HBs you spend.

For GMTs it would be:
Amount of GMTs needed x 10 = amount of IVs. Then amount of IVs needed x 12,500 = amount of HBs needed.

So if you need 20 GMTs it would be

20x10=200 then 200x12,500= 2,500,000HBs (yes this is attainable with the right show heard!)

And if you just need 20 IVs then it would be:

20x12,500=250,000hbs

Vote any time!

SandyCreekAcres
ID# 137592

All About the Showing System

The best way of making money in Hunt and Jump is to train and show your horses. They can be trained once each week and shown twice each week. A horse’s PT score determines how many points will be added with each training and how long it will continue to add points to its show score. The higher the PT score, the more points are added with each training and the more quickly a horse will work its way up the Level/Grade ladder. A Perfect Foundation has a PT score of 9.9. It will add three points to its score each time it trains and will level off (stop adding more points to its score) when it turns 10. The consistency of a horse determines how widely its score can vary. Consistent horse will probably not have more than 2 or 3 points difference in its show scores until it levels up into the next Level/Grade. Starting in Level 2, the point spread for each Level/Grade is 10 points, until the horse reaches Level 6. At that time, the size of the point spread for each Level Grade begins to increase.

The shows are divided into 8 Levels which represent an increasing difficult jump course for each level.

Level 1 classes have the horses shown in hand—on a lead line, not ridden.
Level 2 classes (Green Under Saddle) have the horses being ridden around a course with no jumps.
Level 3 classes (Green Over Fences) have the horses ridden over lower jumps in simple patterns.
Level 4 classes (Training) have the horses competing over higher or fairly difficult jumps in more elaborate patterns.
Level 5 C classes have higher and more difficult jumps and more complex patterns.
Level 6 B classes are increasingly difficult to navigate.
Level 7 A classes are yet more difficult.
Level 8 Grand Prix classes are the most challenging.

Within each Level there are 4 grades that represent the areas from which horses can be entered into the show.
Local shows attract horses from a fairly small area, rather like 4-H horses from a single county in a state in the US.
Regional shows attract the best horses from a larger area. For 4-H competitions, that would be the best horses from across the entire state.
National shows draw competitors from a whole country.
World shows draw the best horses from many countries.

This horse, a 14 year old gelding with a PT of 14.9 is showing in Grand Prix World. He has not yet leveled off and is showing at the top of his classes.

ZO 11648291
This 10 year old mare has a PT score of 9.9, is consistent, and has leveled off, showing at Level 7 Regional, near the bottom of the class.

31521 True Br Brown 1

HorseAngel ID# 253402

An Explanation Of What GP, KP, And SF Are!

Have you been wondering what these genes are or how to breed for them? Well look no farther, I'm here to hopefully help in your understanding of these complex genes!

First off all of them are Recessive, meaning they need 2 copies of that gene to show. Homozygous (hom=2 copies) not Heterozygous (het=1 copy).

*Snowflake- or Snowflake Varnish (abbreviation SF) is a form of Appaloosa varnish that is progressive and usually turns a horse completely white with time. For a horse to show Snowflake it would need to be Homozygous Snowflake and have at least one Appaloosa/Leopard Complex gene (Lp). It shows as little white flakes or spots sprinkled across a horse's coat, which really look like little snowflakes!

Examples (before they turn white):

Het Lp

UH Trapped in Bronze

Hom Lp

G4 HomSnf 116 Elissan Blk

Those are just basic examples since Appaloosa blankets can vary depending on the presence of other genes such as PATN1 as well. A good way to breed for Snowflake is to have a stallion who is Lp/Lp Snow/Snow to cross with mares who are either Lp/ Snow/Snow or ones that are Hom snow but no Lp (they won't show it but are carriers). By doing that they will always produce a Snowflake Appaloosa foal.


*Gulastra Plume- abbreviation is GP, this gene requires the presence of an extension gene (E) and an active A/Bay gene (at least one A to be active, not aa) as well as being Homozygous Gulastra Plume. In other words it only shows on Bay coats & there varients. This gene causes a loss of or reduced pigment in the tail, resulting in a horse with a kind of white dipped tail (it can some times affect the mane too).

Examples here:

EE Aa

Attract

EE A+

IM Past Indulgence

EE tA

3 Subtle Pirate

The degree to which GP shows depends and it seems to show up better on darker horses, Dense Pheomelanin (DP) is a big help in this:


V6 GP Pure Supremacy

This one is a little tricker to breed for than the rest because you always need a Bay coat. My advice would be to have a EE AA gp/gp stallion and Bay mares who are at least Heterozygous gp and go from there.


*Kit Promoter- abbreviation is KP. This one is unlike the other two as it is NOT a real life gene, only in game can you find it. But it's still a fun gene to have and breed even though it's purely fictional! As it's name says, a horse needs to have 2 Kit gene mutations (white spotting genes like Tobiano or Roan) and 2 copies of Kit Promoter to show. KP shows up as a roany or cloudy patch on a horse's coat (patch expression is random & may be changed with a re-roll or two). The only odd ball in this is KP2, which seems to show Heterozygous or Homozygous with it's self. KP2 also makes the edge's of Kit markings very fuzzy!

Examples here:

KP/KP

JS3 Faded Roany KP



V2 KP Cant Find The Cat


KP/KP2

9917838


BBZ2 CloudQueen


Heterozygous KP2

QHS2 Kp2 dp kitm 9835378


It really depends on what kind of Kit gene(s) a horse has but there is such a wide range of expression with KP & KP2, which is what makes it so fun to breed! There's not much you need for this one other then some Homozygous Kit mares (some mares that are carriers of KP would also help of course) and a Homozygous Kit Promoter stallion. Remember that KP2 will show Heterozygous as well, so a KP/KP2 stud could be good for a mix!


Thanks for reading and happy learning! :)

@boredaf You joined after April 10th this year, right? I thought that's what the "in the past 6 months starting 10-10-21" meant... but I could be mistaken.

Ah, I see. I guess I didn't read that part. Thanks for clarifying.

Treble-Stable Number 273531
Differentiating the Many White Markings and Breeding Them Safely
People on Hunt and Jump love to breed their own custom herd. Part of what makes horses here unique is the amount and kind of white markings, and many horses have them, if only a small coronet over the hoof. There are several kinds of white genes, and to a limited extent they can be mixed.
If you are new to the game, here are some explanations to help you figure out what you want to breed for. To keep the post short(ish), I have included mostly links and only one picture.
First, KIT genes have a lot of influence on white patches.
Tobiano gives a horse white patches with crisp edges. These patches cross the midline and have an influence on mane color.
Frame gives a horse a white patch or patches with fuzzy borders around it. These white patches do not cross the midline.
Sabino is a far more subtle effect, lending a white ticking to the belly and legs. Rabicano is similar but affects the base of the tail and flanks.
Roan is similar to sabino, but the mixing of white and colored hairs occurs over a much larger area, sometimes the whole body.
The various W genes provide different kinds of white addition to coats. W2 and W20 are common in the game, but other kinds do occur. How they affect the overall look depends on if they are homozygous or heterozygous and what other genes are present. Here are links to searches for the various white genes:
W1 often gives the legs a white color with the white fading into body color about halfway up.
W2 sometimes puts wispy patches of color all over the horse.
W3 puts wispy patches of white on a horse.
W8 looks like the horse had white spots spray-painted on.
W10 is similar to W1, except the dividing line between white and color is not as level as it often is in W1.
W20 does not seem to have a pronounced effect on its own, perhaps only a stocking, but, per UC Davis, can have an effect on how other white genes are expressed.
The M gene has a similar effect to the tobiano gene, but the patches are a little smaller with irregular edges.
Appaloosa gives horses a blanket of dots, the size of which is controlled by the PATN1 gene.
Splash gives a horse bottom-up white splotches, as if it put its head down and walked through white paint. Two copies will exaggerate the effect.
If you have a bay horse, gulastra plume will put a streak of white in the horse's tail.

These genes can be stacked, and the more kinds the genome has, the more white your horse will be. For example, this horse has tobiano, W2, splash, appaloosa, and frame:

Fractal
Pecuarius (Breeder) caveat! Beware when mixing different kinds of white because certain combinations are lethal. Barring the Freaky Friday Herd Helper, homozygous frame is always lethal, so don't breed frame with frame. Other white combinations can also have this effect, notably homozygous W and W10, so check this chart in the user guide before mating. It is a good idea to have some solid-colored horses in your broodstock to decrease the chance of a foal not surviving.

@confluencestables Sorry to bother you but I was wondering after the earlier convo if 'you can only enter either vote or tutorial not both' meant you could only participate in one or if you could still vote just not be entered in the prize drawing.

This will close at roll over tonight! Get in your last minute lessons!

Congratulations to ALL of the folks who contributed to our Back To School/Talented Tutors contest! Is it ok if we use some of your explanations on the “Basic Information For New Players” Announcement thread?


1st place prize for Tutorial– a 60 acre pasture, and one 5% boost tokens and 500,000 HBs on Bluegrass/HJ1 goes to @bluchrystals for the amazing thread on ice dominance!

2nd place prize for Tutorial – a 30 acre pasture, and three 1% boost tokens and 300,000 HBs on Bluegrass/HJ1 goes to @HiFiveAcres for the To Breed or Not To Breed lesson!

3rd place prize for Tutorial – a 10 acre pasture, and one 1% boost token and 100,000 HBs on Bluegrass/HJ1 goes to @boredaf for the great explanation of how the Axiom Alleles work!

Random new player drawing prize – Your choice of either 750,000 HBs, a 60 stall barn, or a 30 day basic upgrade on Bluegrass/HJ1 goes to @sabrebaby

Random new player drawing prize - Your choice of either 750,000 HBs, a 60 stall barn, or a 30 day basic upgrade on Bluegrass/HJ1 goes to @Menstrosity

Random new player drawing prize - Your choice of either 750,000 HBs, a 60 stall barn, or a 30 day basic upgrade @ClassicCreations

Voting winners you will have to contact me via PM to let me know which prizes you are interested in.

Thanks. Of course you can use it :)

"Is it ok if we use some of your explanations on the “Basic Information For New Players” Announcement thread?"

I mean I don't know if you want mine but you're welcome to it.

Let me just add that selecting winners on HJ1 was TOUGH! You guys all did a GREAT job!

Haha

Congratulations to the winners!

Yay! Congratulations everybody! And thank you to the ones who posted all is the useful information. I've already referenced this post several times!

@ConfluenceStable I will PM you!

Congratulations everyone!

Congrats!

It should have been between the last call and contest closed posts

Did you check your post drafts?

Thanks so much!