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Medicine Hat Genetics
  • In the 1970s and maybe 80s there were some Mustang breeders breeding for a distinctive pinto (Tobiano?) coat with a dark head, mostly white body, with dark markings throughout. What would you call this, and can we breed for it? I was much enamored of them at the time.
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    and my game number is 276934

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  • Medicine Hats in real life are Toveros, a combination of Tobiano and Overo, with a "hat" of color on the ears and a "shield" patch on the chest. The War Bonnet pattern is similar, with a larger patch on the head, sometimes covering the entire face(War Bonnet doesn't have to have the shield). HaJ has Tobiano, but there isn't an Overo gene to breed for(closest is frame, but it's not necessary for this pattern). The in-game horses I've seen with a Medicine Hat pattern typically have Tobiano with extensive white factor. Some also have SW1 or Frame in addition to the Tobiano.
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    Unfortunately, the specific pattern doesn't have it's own gene, in-game or IRL. You can definitely try breeding for it, but there's no real guarantee that you'll get that exact pattern every time.
    Post edited by MackZ at 2022-03-08 11:30:10
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  • This is my Medicine Hat horse. Her ears were fully cover as a foal, as MackZ said you can definitely try breeding for it but there is no gene for it

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  • @MackZ overo just means any pinto gene that is not tobiano. There is no "overo" gene in real life either. Lethal White Overo is another name for frame. :)
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  • interesting, and thank you @Ammit and @Blaze5115
    I am Fiddler, my pronouns are she/her
    and my game number is 276934

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  • I absolutely love Medicine Hats and breed them frequently. Most of mine are Tobiano + Frame

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    I occasionally have some that are Tobiano Frame and Splash, but I find I personally don’t prefer that expression as much

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    Tobiano Frame and Sabino is another way I get patterning similar to Medicine Hat. I personally like that more than Tobi/Frame/Splash even though it’s not as clearly Medicine Hat

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  • interesting, and thank you @Ammit and @Blaze5115
    @paradoxphoenix, they're wonderful!
    I am Fiddler, my pronouns are she/her
    and my game number is 276934

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  • I just got a 7th gen SUP to mare Medicine Hat Filly : Mom was also a Medicine Hat but more heavily marked, mine seem to be Tobiano / Splash
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  • Pretty!
    I am Fiddler, my pronouns are she/her
    and my game number is 276934

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