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It's good to sell those high pointed creates for fast cash but in theory you are giving that money they could earn to someone else.

You are going to have to stop keeping yourself below 20k points. You will never grow into a big profitable barn that way.

You should have 3 to 5 times the number of show horses as you have breeding horses.

I would personally wait to stop making pointed creates until I had enough hbs to buy at least one or two show barns of size 90 or 210. That way, when you start keeping your bred foals to show them, you'll have the needed space.

As for making hbs, your show horses do make some hbs when they show (usually they make enough that you make back a small profit on your entry fees) but as others have mentioned, the key thing is that they will also earn points, which then are used to calculate your daily bonus of hbs.

For example, if we look at your horse Hi Ho Silver, she recently earned 3 points and 14 hbs in the Unjestingly Five Star Event (look under her records, then click on the show in question).
https://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=15450178

My strategy in finding show horses so far has been to look for (1) pointed creates (of course) because whether or not they show well, they will provide you with income every day, (2) spay/geldings with high PT scores because I'm not breeding into the 12s and 13s yet and I would like to try competing in the higher classes, and (3) keeping my own foals that I breed that are over 10.4 PT score (I know everyone has their own thresholds).

Of these three sources, I probably make the most hbs and points from my kept foals simply because I have so many. However, foals usually don't start making you money until they are at least 4 years or so, since they have to accumulate enough points to actually make a difference to your daily bonus. It's definitely a long-term process, not a quick one.

Again using Hi Ho Silver as an example, she's only 2 years old, so she won't level off for another 7 years (his PT is 9+). She is only earning you 1 hb per day right now since she only has 5.5 points. However, in the next 7 months, she will keep adding to her total points and may end up having closer to 200, and if she levels off in a show class where she keeps earning points, she could be a good show horse. If she levels off in a class where she isn't earning new points, then she likely wouldn't be worth keeping as a show horse. You might be planning on using her mostly for breeding instead, this was just an example.

By contrast, my horse here is older and well established as a good show horse. She has levelled off in a very good place and just earned 38 points in her last show, and is making me 463 hbs per day. When I bought her, I didn't know if that would be the case, I just knew her PT was above 13 and I was willing to see how it went.
https://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=11291881

When you're buying geldings/spayed mares, their Papers don't matter because the papers only relate to their breeding score. All that matters is their PT score and if they are older, check to see if they have levelled off in a good show class where they're earning good points.

you can also "rescue" horses from Owner 13. they all train weekly and are "perfect" if you buy the 8 or 9 yo and keep / show them til 10 you can make a decent profit and roll that money into IV's :)

AnnisMyrph, why are there so many horses of that particular age for sale by owner 13?

oh!!

thanks so much! so "exceptional show horse" is that what. I should be looking for?
thanks again!!

@SandyCreekAcres gave an excellent explanation. One slight change, though, is the "Exceptional Producer" foundations; they will always have B or Red papers, with varying PT scores. I have one that has B papers, but a PT score below 2, and many others with PT between 6 and 10.
I think the lowest PT score I've gotten so far on an "Exceptional Show Horse" has been 10.3, and most of the ones I've created have not passed Breeding Advice.

@CrowsnestRidge I’m curious… how can that horse have that high of a daily payout but have a lifetime earnings of only 2778HB? What am I missing?