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- Ammit April 2022
- BlessedByBrigid April 2022
- CrowsnestRidge April 2022
- Heifer April 2022
- Nightphoenix April 2022
- Starstruck2 April 2022
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Very frustrated- Just need to vent.
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My whole system is messed up now! I’m fairly new here. I usually don’t invest real money into a game until I have played for a few months and make sure that it is something that I want to invest in, but I was having so much fun with it that I broke my rules and got a premium subscription on this server and basic upgrades on both Forest and Mesa.
I was trying different strategies on all servers. On Forrest I am building a bootstrap herd, on Mesa I’m selling pointed creates until I can save up enough money to buy a barn full of even bred 5Gs, but on this server I was just having fun starting from scratch with the goal of trying to create a herd that was homozygous for all my favorite genes. I had bought extra barns with real money and IVs for my Bluegrass breeding projects.
I have a hundred acre pasture and a 15 acre pasture. I kept my 100 acre pastures full of mares that I wanted to get a pasture bonus. I didn’t really use my hundred acre for breeding. I have several nice studs, and I would pick one at a time to put in my 15 acre pasture and move the mares I wanted to breed to him down so I had control over which mares got bred to which stud. After I bred my pasture mares, I’d pull my show mares out of my barns into my 15 acre pasture and do the same. I had started testing all of my foals; I’d keep the fillies that passed strict breeding advice for future breeding and the highest PT geldings and spays for showing, and auction my yellow, C, and low PT foals. I do confess that before I surpassed the limit on pointed creates I was breeding the mares that were under a hundred points and sending the babies to auction just so I could do better than break even on low pointed creates, but that stopped as soon as I got too many points to make pointed creates.
After the new pasture changes I can’t be selective with my breeding without expensive AI that would make me loose mare pasture bonuses and loose money on the foals that don’t fit my program, I’m pretty frustrated and rapidly loosing interest. I also saw a recent thread that showed that people with big herds were not making super great profits with their show barns which compounds my frustration. I’m kinda regretting my decision to invest in the game and don’t think I will maintain my subscriptions. I was looking forward to buying gene licenses in the future, but with the new pasture changes I’d have to buy so many extra pastures to make it worth my while, and Amit is saying they will probably make the breeding even more restricted in the future. I’m guess I should just be thankful that I am fairly new and have not thrown even more money into the game than I have. Grrrrr!
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After the new pasture changes I can’t be selective with my breeding without expensive AI that would make me loose mare pasture bonuses and loose money on the foals that don’t fit my program,
This is not true at ALL! I am not sure why you think that is the case? It sounds like from your post absolutely nothing has changed about how you will be breeding. You never have to use AI for anything in the game.I also saw a recent thread that showed that people with big herds were not making super great profits with their show barns which compounds my frustration.
This also is not true. Can you point me to where you saw this? Show barns are how you make money in the game.Post edited by Ammit at 2022-04-01 08:24:22Need to contact me? Read this first.
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As I mentioned, I don’t breed in my 100 acre pasture, I drop the mares down to my 15 acre pasture a few at a time so I can use different studs. I also bring my show mares that I don’t AI to outside studs out of my barns to my 15 acre so I can breed them. Now I’m restricted to 45 foals a season out of my pasture that I use for breeding so my whole system is screwed up.
https://www.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/54120/rollover/p1
The thread I spoke of. -
You should be using your 100-acre pasture for breeding. That would completely solve your issues. You do not need to fill a pasture to use it. You paid for it, you should get the foals from it. Not breeding it is a waste.
No one in that thread is talking about not making enough money. Some even mentioned making hundreds of thousands per day from their show string.Post edited by Ammit at 2022-04-01 08:43:30Need to contact me? Read this first.
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You can take all the mares in it out and as long as you have them back in before midnight they won't lose the bonus. This is easily resolvable.Need to contact me? Read this first.
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You don't have to AI. Hand breeding costs $1000 which is only $500 more than pasture breeding. I hand breed a bunch of mares that don't quite fit in any of my pasturesPost edited by Starstruck2 at 2022-04-01 09:16:37Starstruck2 on Bluegrass and Forest
Betony707 on Forest & MesaThanked by 1Nightphoenix -
I breed my pastures once a year so it doesn't impact me at all, I'm actually just really glad that the pasture price didn't have to increase because it's already a high expense for me and I do want to continue to slowly add pastures.
I'm a newer player, joined last November, and I've experimented with a lot of different ways of playing before finding what works for me (and honestly I'm STILL learning new things lol). Just be flexible and willing to try new things and you'll find your groove :)Starstruck2 on Bluegrass and Forest
Betony707 on Forest & MesaThanked by 1Nightphoenix -
@Starstruck2 thanks for that tip! I just joined in Feb so I am still learning the ins and outs.
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I hear you that it can be hard to land on a good strategy that is fun and works for you. I’d just echo Starstruck that there is a fair bit of experimentation and to hang in there!
I don’t think that pastures were ever intended to be used for several rounds of breeding between a stallion and maybe only a couple mares. That sort of specific approach is best done with the in-house options or using straws. I believe you also get a breeding bonus for doing lab breeding with straws.
I personally found I prefer using smaller pastures and having a couple different lines going for variety instead of the big size 100 pastures. So after trying the size 100s, I’ve mostly acquired smaller ones. You can also do things like have a stallion with a lot of variety in their genes so even if you breed him to 100 similar mares, you’ll still get lots of different foals.ID #265959 | He/him | Breeding Black Satin, Liver, and Grullo Arcturus Horses | Licenses: Mushroom, DFP2, Onyx, Axiom Blue and Green -
@BlessedByBrigid I’m sorry, I’m a little confused. If I’m understanding correctly, you take out a few mares at a time from your primary pasture and breed them in a different pasture? That seems like a lot of work. I totally understand that everyone plays the game their own way, but wouldn’t it just be easier to pick a stallion (or stallions that complement each other nicely if it’s a bigger pasture), pick mares that you think would be a good match for that stallion (or any of those stallions), put them in the pasture, and then just leave them there to do their thing? That’s what I do.
And I still have control over which stallions breed which mares in a sense. I have three stallions in my primary pasture right now. Every mare that goes in there is a mare that I think is a great match for all three stallions, so no matter which stallion breeds which mare, I still get the crosses that I want :)Post edited by Nightphoenix at 2022-04-01 12:11:02I’m autistic and I struggle with any kind of communication, so I apologize in advance if I say anything rude or offensive because there’s a 99% chance that I have no clue I did it. I appreciate your patience with me! -
I’ve been doing the same thing - my 100 acre pasture has mares from different generations, and even my same generation mares don’t all have the same genes or paper levels; I have a 10 acre pasture I’ve kept empty so I can pull and breed ten at a time. Obviously, that’s not going to work anymore. Not sure I’m up for doing that much hand breeding.
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@Heifer the exact same fix works for you. Take your mares out, use your 100-acre pasture for breeding, then just have them back in before midnight so they don't lose the bonus. Easy peasy.Need to contact me? Read this first.
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