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- Cavalynn May 2022
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- OopsDotCom May 2022
- SandyCreekAcres May 2022
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Why did this horse get neutered? ⛝ Closed
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Post edited by OopsDotCom at 2022-05-27 19:07:49
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They both were worse for breeding than their sire.
I expect they were both neutered by Breeding Advice or Strict Breeding Advice, whichever you used.Post edited by SandyCreekAcres at 2022-05-24 11:49:40Thanked by 1OopsDotCom -
Yes, strict. But how do I read their statistics before I judge to breed them or not? Matching generations and matching papers apparently aren't enough. (Mostly I remember)
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I don't think you can really judge them before you test them. That's what the test is for. If you mean judge the parents before you breed them to try and get intact offspring, matching breeding ability is all you can do, but you will never have a pairing that never throws spelds. That's not a bad thing, the offspring might be really good showers, so they're still good horses then. The only way I've seen that you can get a very low speld rate is breeding fully pasture-boosted foundations. I get about 1 or 2 spelds out of a hundred that way. Hand breeding and even the 15-day boost equivalent bonus given when AI breeding can't guarantee that the foal won't be altered. The foal's breeding ability always lands within a range that starts just below the parents ability to just above the parents ability. If it happens to land just below or as good as, the foal will be snipped by SBA. So if you're hand breeding, not pasture breeding with the boost or AI breeding with the automatic 15-day bonus, it's pretty much always 50/50 if the foal will pass or get snipped. It's random where the foal will land within the range of the parents' ability to produce, and part of that possible range will always be worse than the parents, without a pasture boost to clip that end off.
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I've had plenty of AGAs pass SBA. Pasture breeding doesn't guarantee that the foal will stay intact even with a full 30 day pasture boost to the mares. It gets a lot more noticeable the higher you move in generations.Thanked by 1OopsDotCom
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Actually, so far I don't use the pasture boost, I use it so I have lower cost breedings. But I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth that one pasture full of the 30 day boost and sacrifice other breedings.
Pastures for real money are beyond my budget.
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You can have a set of mares that you keep in pasture all the time to accumulate the boost, and then when you want to use the pasture to breed some non-boosted mares, just remove the boosted mares briefly and get them back into pasture before midnight game time. That's what I do so I make sure I have a 30-day boost on my best mares and then if I still have leftover breedings available on my pastures, I rotate my barn mares through to breed and then put my pasture mares back in before they lose their bonus. I've found that to be a good compromise.Thanked by 1OopsDotCom
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So you get one pasture full of mares that have the boost, while the others don't? Yet you still get the pasture bonus, am I understanding right?
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Yep, I have six pastures filled with my best mares, and they get the benefit of the 30-day boost. I breed them first just so I get the best in pasture email on their foals. Then I rotate them out into my primary barn so I can use each pasture again to breed my barn-kept mares. They don't have any boost accumulated so a lot of their foals get snipped, but I mostly breed them just to fill my show barns. Then I get the pasture-boosted mares back into their pastures before midnight and they don't lose the boost that they had accumulated. The boost is associated with the mare, not the pasture, so as long as she shows as having days in pasture accumulated, her foal will benefit from it when she's bred in pasture. You can see how many days in pasture a mare has accumulated in her information on the pasture page, or when you view her on the search horses page. There will be a number in brackets by her name.Thanked by 1OopsDotCom
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6 pastures? Gak give me a few years to save up that much.
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I have 9 pastures myself from the days I used to have 2 pastures per generation. Now I only use one pasture per generation, but there are several pastures I'm not using due to lack of the appropriate generations after I did a hard culling of my horses.Post edited by Forestshadow at 2022-05-27 06:52:35Thanked by 1OopsDotCom
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Do horses in the pastures show? Auto-show only lists barns.
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Nope, pasture horses can't show and aren't meant to be able to. Ammit has said you can either have laid back brood mares in the pasture or show horses. It's a trade-off, can't have it both ways.Thanked by 1OopsDotCom
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Ok, thanks. So, pasture horses can't raise their points then?Post edited by OopsDotCom at 2022-05-27 18:50:21
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Yep, that's right. Some players do remove their pasture mares into a barn to show them and then put them back in pasture before they lose their bonus, but Ammit has said that she doesn't approve of that.Thanked by 1OopsDotCom
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Is that the way it works in real life?
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I don't show horses in rl myself, so I'm not sure if dedicated brood mares would actually throw better foals. But I think that's what it's meant to simulate.Thanked by 1OopsDotCom
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Well, I know with dogs, a brood bitch can end up with slightly bigger teats and a thickened waist. My female couldn't be showed because of a fault, but boy did she ever throw some awesome puppies. The fault wasn't genetic, so her pups didn't get it. But yeah, that's a tough call to make deciding which would be better breeders.