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We need your help figuring out some new herd helpers!
  • We could use your help. We have the following names for new herd helpers we want to create but need some help with coming up with the genes for each one. Do you have any suggestions for what these herd helpers could look like?


    Midnight Clear
    Songs of Old
    Harps of Gold
    Solemn And Still
    Dove of Peace
    Shadow of Mars
    Light in the Dark
    Mistletoe
    Poppy White
    Olive Branch


    ETA: I now only need suggestions for Light in the Dark, Mistletoe and Dove of Peace
    Post edited by Ammit at 2022-11-14 10:30:04
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  • Here are a couple that come to me at the moment:

    Midnight Clear--EE W8 WF minimal/small

    Shadow of Mars--ee DPDP RB WF med

    Harps of Gold--ee aa ChCh RB WF large


    Post edited by SandyCreekAcres at 2022-11-14 09:07:30

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  • I'm not super creative but here's a few I thought of:

    Songs of Old- Classic champagne with Tiger Eye

    Light in the Dark- Black base with rabicano, the white ticks could resemble light coming through on a dark coat

    Poppy White- Bright bay (wild bay or bay with DP) with het grey

    Olive Branch- Brown or brown dun

    I'm sure whatever is decided will be wonderful! I'd love to see some herd helpers that correspond with the changes that everyone has been working hard to release! (i.e. the grey update, the brown update, and the tobiano update that was mentioned on the facebook page)
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  • Harps of Gold could be an exceptional producing gold champagne splash chimera, maybe with gray. So the brindle stripes would look like golden harp strings.

    Light in the Dark could be a silver smoky black with het S+. The lights of dappling from the silver and cream would show through the sooty black.
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  • Light in the dark, a black snowflake horse
    Songs of old, we have to have old skewbald, a tobiano with any color not black, and (the old ) grey mares

    Shadow of Mars, this has got to be a red based dark horse a/a Sty/Sty DP?
    I agree with @Kgstable about the Olive Branch brown horses

    Solemn and still, a silver horse Z/Z no red
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  • Midnight Clear could be an exceptionally perfect hom sooty gray black so it starts out ultra black like midnight and gradually clouds over. Maybe het KP1 so it can throw clouds? Has that been out long enough to be released on a rank special?

    Shadow of Mars could be a true breeding silver wild bay with DP and no sooty, so it's bright red with blue mane and tail, red like Mars with the blue poles.
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  • Dove of Peace could be an exceptional producing chocolate palomino pearl, maybe with sabino 1. The coat would look glossy and soft and white like a dove.

    Mistletoe could be a brown hom tobiano chimera with gulastra plume. It seems gulastra plume is often on our Christmas-themed herd helpers, and it would look great on our new browns. Tobiano with chimera might make patterns that look like leaves and berries.
  • Bare with me I’m struggling to think of the proper phenotypes

    Shadow of mars - chimera with red and like a Smokey black or black

    Poppy white- a leopard appy with red spots

    Harps of gold - chimera gold champagne


  • Midnight Clear- Sooty black snowflake appaloosa or black with Ice 1, 5, or 8 and no app (my preference), like how a clear, cold night causes frost. Or maybe it could be Ex Pro het nexus.
    Songs of Old-Maybe gray with gray reduction for that antique look, just extended.
    Harps of Gold - Homozygous pearl or het/hom champagne for that golden hue
    Solemn and Still- Gray and black
    Dove of Peace - Homozygous Cream and max white factor
    Shadow of Mars - Sooty Bay Roan
    Light in the Dark - W3 or W8 on a sooty base
    Mistletoe - DP sooty Bay
    Poppy White - As red a chestnut as possible with white blotches (maybe frame)
    Olive Branch - Nice deep brown with Kit M

    I'd like more HH with sooty, as I like nice, deep, saturated colors.
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  • @Treble Thanks for mentioning het nexus! I was also wondering if we could possibly hope for that.
  • Not as sure on some of these but here's some ideas:

    Songs of Old could be an exceptionally perfect classic cream champagne dun. "Old" makes me think of classic, and classic champagnes are always beautiful and I think champagnes are especially gorgeous with cream and/or dun.

    Solemn And Still could be an exceptionally perfect hom non-dun 1 black with Tiger Eye. I just love ND1 on black and it looks solemn to me.

    Poppy White could be an exceptionally perfect leopard appy chimera, random base coat. It would look like poppy seeds in a muffin. :)

    Olive Branch could be a true breeding brown with het satin. Satin always has that bit of green sheen that could look like an olive color on dark brown, so this could throw that.
    Thanked by 1MackZ
  • Some of these ideas may not be plausible or possible, sorry in advance

    Midnight Clear -
    smoky black base, het nexus, and ice 1 or 8

    Songs of Old -
    gray black base
    chocolate palomino base
    maybe add some pangere (perhaps even pangere +) for the faded appearance
    maybe add DP or sooty (especially to a chocolate palomino base - give it that almost dirty/dusty appearance)

    Harps of Gold -
    gold champagne
    gold champagne pearl
    maybe the striped chimera with these two colors to kind of look like the strings of a harp (like @CLynnRose said)

    Poppy White -
    wild bay leopard appaloosa and gold champagne leopard appaloosa chimera (essentially, red and yellow toned spots on a white base)
    same colors as above, but tobiano chimera instead of the leopard appy

    Dove of Peace -
    cremello or perlino
    maybe add hom satin

    Light in the dark -
    black base and het nexus
    black base and hom snowflake
    black and pearl (cremello or perlino?) chimera

    Mistletoe -
    Dun. I don’t know why, but dun.
    maybe kitM

    Olive Branch -
    ditto to what @kgstable said
    maybe chimera with two slightly different shades of brown so it looks kind of like tree bark

    Shadow of Mars -
    wild bay and silver bay chimera
    I also picture something similar to this
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    Side note: I would LOVE it if some DFP1 got thrown in on HH!
    Thanked by 1Treble
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