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Scores in the negative?
  • This little guy has a couple of minus scores. What does that mean?

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  • Well, he's just a yearling, so he's not in training yet. It just looks to me like his starting score is very low. However, his PT score is 11.4, so once he starts training after he turns 2 in just a few days, things should start looking up.

    I'd estimate that his base score will climb by at least 4 or more points with each training, maybe more. It's been real life years since I kept an account of the scores of my game horses after each show they were entered in. When I was doing that, a perfect foundation would add 3 points to its show score with every training, so this little guy should do better than that. Keep an eye on him once he turns two, and I expect you'll find that he starts climbing up though the Level/Grades quite rapidly.
    Post edited by SandyCreekAcres at 2022-12-29 06:49:01

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  • Thank you, I appreciate the information. But why negative scores, and what do they mean? I've found I have others too. Possibly it means what they won is lest than the cost to enter maybe? But with only 1 other horse to compete with, I can't see how that would happen.
    Post edited by OopsDotCom at 2022-12-29 14:16:52
  • They don't mean anything. It is just random for babies.
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  • Thank you, Ammit. Is year 2 random also?
    Post edited by OopsDotCom at 2022-12-29 18:57:02
  • @ Sandy
    So if they should pick up 4 points per training, there would be two shows a week and 4 weeks in the calendar month, so for the next few calendar months (game year) he'll pick up 16 points for the first few years (starting at age 3?) Does that 16 points per calendar month increase as he gets older and more training? I've been wondering what the statistics are for young horses, how to tell if they're earning their keep (or going to earn) so to speak, whether they will be worth keeping. I've got way too many foals this year.

    I'm not sure I'm explaining my question well enough for you to understand what I'm trying to get at.
    Post edited by OopsDotCom at 2022-12-29 18:59:41
  • At age 2, your horses will start training. The amount of points that they gain per training session (which is once weekly) will vary depending on that particular horse's showing ability. Inconsistency will cause a variance to be present in the horse's showing scores as well.

    So, let's say for example that you happen to have a perfectly consistent yearling with a starting score of 0. That foal will score a 0 in all shows that they enter as a yearling, because they are not training to boost their score and have no inconsistency to push their score either higher or lower. Now, when that foal turns 2 and starts training, their score will start increasing - the amount that they increase depends on that particular horse's showing ability, but for the sake of simple math, let's just say that the horse's score increases by 10 per training session. Here's a sample of what that horse's record would look like in terms of show score:

    Yearling year:
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    2 year old year:
    10 (first show, week 1)
    10 (second show, week 1)
    20 (first show, week 2 and so on...)
    20
    30
    30
    40
    40

    As the horse reaches the peak of their training ability, the score increase from each training session will start to decrease until the horse levels off and receives no more score increase from training.

    If your horse has any degree of inconsistency in their show scores, the exact score gain per week can be a little more complex, as your scores for a horse in training may look something more like this: 42 (week 1), 45 (week 1), 54 (week 2), 58 (week 2), 68 (week 3) etc... but the basic principles are the same, that your horse receives a set increase in score per training session, however when your horse shows they may score some points lower or higher than their "base" score due to an inconsistent performance.

    As for predicting which horses will be good showers, the ones that will really earn you the most money are those that level off in a good position - scoring towards the top of National or World classes, generally. There isn't really a way to predict which horses will level off in this sweet spot, which is why a lot of big barns have a ton of show horses. As inconsistency can make it more challenging for a leveled-off horse to consistently score in the top of their class, you will notice that some people choose not to keep inconsistent horses in favor of the more predictable scorers who, once leveled off, you will know are either good or bad earners nearly every time.
  • Thank you so much for taking the time to explain this. I really appreciate it.
    This will stay bookmarked for a long time.
    Post edited by OopsDotCom at 2022-12-29 21:50:56

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