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- bailee101 August 2015
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Colors, Again
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So, I'm still trying to understand how this game talk about the colors and the codes and whatnot. Tell me if im right?
Ee Aa CcrC dd gg ff SS Pp zz chch SaSa | KitKit SpSp PAX3+PAX3+ VVrn LL rbrb OO IiIi WF: Large PATN: Extensive, buckskin, with varnish?
eE aa CcrC dd gg fF SS PP zz Chch SaSa | KitKit SpSp PAX3+PAX3+ VVrn LlpL rbrb OO IiIi WF: Extensive PATN: Large, Cream, Flaxen, Varnish, and LP?
Ee Aa CC dd gg FF SstySsty pp zz chch SaSa | KitrKit SpSp PAX3+PAX3+ VrnVrn LL rbrb OO IiIi WF: Extensive PATN: Light, Sooty bay roan?
ee Aa CC dd gg FF SS PP zz chch SaSa | KitKitr SpSps PAX3+PAX3+ VrnV LL rbrb OO IiIi WF: Extensive PATN: Light, Roan Splash and varnish?
Please correct me and add detail if i missed it! just wanting to learn as i go, with my own horses :) -
Ok, 1st one is a buckskin, but even though it has varnish, it will not varnish, as it is not an appaloosa, which is the only horse type that varnish shows on.
2nd one is also a buckskin, and carries a flaxen gene, but the flaxen will not show on a black based horse, only Red (ee) based horses and it must be ff to be flaxen. If they have a large F, it usually will be the same color as the horse. So Ff, or fF on a red based horse will have the same color of mane and tail as the horse color. ff is flaxen on a red based horse and will show up lighter in color than the horses color. It is also an Appaloosa, so the varnish will show as the horse ages. Since it only has one Varnish gene (VVrn), it will not varnish as fast as a horse with VrnVrn.
3rd one is correct. No need to worry about the Homozygous Varnish, that is has, as this one is not an appaloosa.
4th one is a Red Roan Splash. Again, it is not an appaloosa, so you don't have to worry about the Varnish gene, as it will not show on a non-appaloosa.Was Rebecca Iavelli on the old forum
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Second one doesn't have an A gene, wouldn't that make is smokey black, not buckskin?
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Yep, he's a smokey classic champagne, not buckskinThanked by 1bailee101
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Opps, missed that, and that he was Champagne. Sorry! Was more concentrating on the varnish stuff for her.Post edited by KerredansCorral at 2015-08-14 10:49:10Was Rebecca Iavelli on the old forum
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Thank you! one more question. So for those genes like sooty, varnish, etc, if the horse has it, instead of just S, for sooty, it would be Ssty, and instead of just v, for varnish, its vrn, ect.
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SS is non sooty, StyS or SSty the horse has one sooty gene, StySty and they are homozygous.
VV is non varnish, VrnV or VVrn the horse has one varnish gene, and VrnVrn are homozygous.
I am not sure, but I believe that in the sequence of the genes, for the game, the first listed gene is from the sire, and the second is from the mare.
Like in this sequence l have listed below.
ee AA CprlCcr Dd gg ff SSsty pp Zz chch SaSa | KittoKit SpSp PAX3+PAX3+ VVrn LL rbrb OlwO IiIi WF: Extensive PATN: Minimal
It belongs to this horse, who is a 3rd generation foal in my barn.
http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=3460506
You can look at the sire and see that the first gene of each set is from the sire, and the second set is from his dam. Look at the first set (ee), which makes him red based, even though his parents are black based, they are not homozygous for black, so both the sire and the mare threw their e gene instead of their E gene.
For the second set (AA), the sire is homozygous AA, so it doesn't matter which one he threw, but the mare is aA, and threw the A, making the foal homozygous for Agouti, like his sire.
In the third set (CprlCcr), the sire threw his pearl gene (CPrl) intsted of just a cream gene (Ccr), which he has, and the mare threw her cream gene (Ccr) instead on her non creme gene (C), so the foal got CprlCCr.
So, you can continue to go back and forth looking at the sire and dams genetics to match with the foals, and see how it played out.
Foundations are more or less the same, except that they don't show parents, since you create them, but think of the genes the same way, as if from parents that are not listed. Don't know if that makes it easier to understand, but I hope it helps somewhat.
Was Rebecca Iavelli on the old forum
HJ1 #51449
HJ2 #130
Think! - It's not illegal yet.