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  • I think I need some game help.


    I get so frustrated when I breed a consistent horse with a good show record and a good grade with another and the foal comes out snipped and inconsistent.

    I know I've spent maybe $10000 in the past night on breeding and gotten only inconsistent horses that I cant breed.

    It really sucks the fun from the game. I don't have much money.... and I feel like if I'm breeding for something-- a goal... and am using my best tactics and hbs, it shouldn't feel like this. And I know, maybe its only being true to life....

    But I just feel like as a strategy game, the outcomes should rely more on strategy than luck.

    Or maybe I'm just confused. Am I breeding right? What am I doing wrong? :(
  • I dont even check for consistency... I feel it is a wanted of hbs. And showing ability has nothing to do with breeding ability. You have to breed the mares to know if they are good breeders. Also if you breed horses of uneven breeding ability (like expro to normal creates), you have a much bigger chance of the foal getting snipped.
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  • First off you don't have to use any test you don't want to. Many users don't test for inconstancy and there is nothing wrong with that. If a test is just going to make things not fun for you then there is no point in using it.

    Looking at the foals I see in your barn it looks like you are trying to breed some very high ability horses. I think you are setting yourself up for disappointment with this. When you breed high level horses there is a lot more variables in play. The reason why people breed even lines is not because even lines make it easier to get intact foals even ABILITY makes it easier to get intact foals. You know a perfect create is 100% breeding ability and you know an exceptional producer is 105% breeding ability. Breeding those together is breeding uneven ability. Its harder to get an intact foal from those two then breeding two 100% horses together or two 105% horses together.

    So what is the ability of the horses you are breeding? Are they even? There is no way to know. And the deeper you get down the breeding tree the harder it will be to know that. A 115% horse is a great horse but a 140% is going to be a top of the leader board horse. Breed those two together and there is an extreamly high chance you are getting an altered foal because there is no way that foal can meet the standards of its 140% parent. It is however a great way to get show horses.

    What you are breeding is not wrong. It's a great way to build up your herd and a smart way to go but breeding foundations is going to be more apt to get you intact foals. It's really not luck based at all. There is a lot of strategy that goes into breeding.

    I sent you a 15 stall barn so you will have room to play around with some foundation breeding. I think you will find it a bit more rewarding to mess around with them. You have the right idea with breeding but that strategy really works much better with the 1000+ horse stables. With a tiny barn like yours if you want intacts you will want to go with your best chance to get them. Good luck!

    I also noticed you aren't showing a ton. Be sure to enter as often as possible as that will keep your income growing. :D
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  • Oh ok, I didn't know any of that. I thought a good shower equaled good breeder and vice versa and that a good horse was just a good horse. I didn't know there was so much more into it, I guess that's why it got confusing and harder for me. But that helps a ton! Thank you so much for the advice and all!! It really helps and I feel a lot better about it now. I felt like maybe I was missing something... turns out I was haha. And are inconsistent horses still good show horses?
    Thank you so much, Ammit, for the barn! <3
  • They make great show horses. I would definitely keep those ones you bred as showers. They should do really well for you. :)
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  • Inconsistent horses make awesome showers. At its most basic form, the show system rewards you for showing as many things as you have as often as you can. The more shows your horse enters, the more points it collects. The more points it collects, the more money you get every week. It sounds too simple to be true, but that's exactly how things work now.

    And... well... having your expensive, shiny, and otherwise much-awaited foals get snipped by any of the tests is pretty much the other thing you'll just have to get used to. If I had 10 hbs for every foal I got that I really really really wanted to remain intact, I'd be a HAJI millionaire twice over!

  • Amen to that Stone Silo! I am always spending hbs on top of hbs in the AI lab trying to get that "perfect" foal only to have it snipped.

    Try looking at it this way - Every time you get a snipped foal, you get another potential money maker in the show ring. While breeders can be (and often are) awesome showers, it's the gelds and spays that are most often the majority of a player's show string. Of course, it can always sting a tad when that perfect foal gets the snip, but you can always try again.

    As far as inconsistency goes, the only time I use the test myself is when I need to make room. Even then, I just test my gelds and spays.

    Send me a PM telling me what you're trying to breed for and I'll see what I have. :)
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