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Herzeloyde · Nov 2, 2019 8:38 AM

I have decided I want a base like this for my new foundation stallion:

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One thing I really love about him is the more golden tone in his dapples. Most of his full siblings have a more warm/reddish tone to their dapples, like the one below. Does anyone know how I can recreate the golden tone? Is it genetics, or just rerolling like crazy?

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SharayahStables · Nov 2, 2019 9:13 AM

Not sure, but he’s gorgeous!

bluchrystals · Nov 2, 2019 9:16 AM

Do all his siblings have a pearl copy like the bottom one?

Forestshadow · Nov 2, 2019 9:48 AM

I'm not sure, but man, he's pretty

Herzeloyde · Nov 2, 2019 12:40 PM

No, some har het. Some are hom. And some don’t have pearl, so no clue there.

bluchrystals · Nov 2, 2019 12:49 PM

I know brown normally gives that copper color to the dapples, but I'm not sure what is throwing off the others.

hrymfaxe · Nov 2, 2019 3:12 PM

Only difference I can see is here: SLC24A5NSLC24A5TE1 vs here: SLC24A5NSLC24A5TE2. Golden dapples on second line.

SandyCreekAcres · Nov 2, 2019 4:00 PM

It's probably a variation that can be changed by rerolling (from the Control Tab) the image, not just refreshing it. I doubt that the tiger eye gene affects the dapples in any way.

Herzeloyde · Nov 2, 2019 4:07 PM

Then I will try rerolling like crazy and see if I can get something similar

Brandybrookes · Nov 3, 2019 5:51 AM

Its almost like the top one has a hidden nd1 gene or something similar and the others didnt get it.
Its almost like the dense ph didnt affect the under coat of the first one.

Brandybrookes · Nov 3, 2019 5:53 AM

Hes beautiful. Id love to pair him to some of my mares some days.

Herzeloyde · Nov 3, 2019 6:03 AM

Thank you everyone! All of them are hom.nd 1, sty and DP, so that is not the factor. Perhaps the answer is, like *SandyCreek says, rerolling.

But the top one is so handsome, that I am seriously considering to ungeld him, give him a boost and transform him into a mare. I only use 2nd gen A stallions, but the mares can be blue and red

SherwoodStables · Nov 3, 2019 7:12 AM

I bet it is a variation of the nd1, like the golden tone would almost look like bay dun, but it can only show in dapples because of the sooty and Dp. And some nd1's hardly get any dilution at all, so the darker ones would look like regular dark bays (not obviously nd1) without the Dp?
That's my guess :-?

Herzeloyde · Nov 3, 2019 8:51 AM

That really sounds plausible!

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