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Do you keep mares that test "as good as"?
  • I'm just breeding my first gen horses and I'm trying to make sure I start lines off right. Do you keep and breed mares that test as good as their parents or only superior?

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  • Some players who are strict with their lines will not keep a mare that is not superior, but others will.

    I don’t breed specific lines, so my culling is a little more relaxed. I cull my mares based on three questions. Is she superior? Is she consistent? Does she have genes that I like? At minimum, two of those questions must have yes as the answer. If two or all of the questions have no as the answer, I won’t use that mare for breeding (with a few rare exceptions).

    For example, if I bred a consistent hom pearl hom LP mare that was AGA, I would keep her because she fulfills two of my three criteria.

    I’m now starting to get superior 4th gen foals, so this method works well for me, but it might not work for everyone :)
    Post edited by Nightphoenix at 2021-08-07 11:00:13
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  • I do SOMETIMES. If she has all of the genes and she's a 2G mare. Anything over 2G has to be superior.
    I focus on genes, PT score (for if I keep her as a show horse) and paper level.
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  • I do not. A mare has to test superior (depending on if I’m going to keep her as a implant mare) for me to keep her. There are some fillies/mares I have kept intact to be used as a embryo implant mare (cause I didn’t have the heart to spay her). And same with colts, like just yesterday I got a chimera colt from my stallion Messiah that stayed intact but was C papered. I’m keeping him intact as a BootStrap stallion.

    Now by 5th gen I expect mares/studs to be *Star or *Gold and I occasionally get the *Star or *Gold 4th gen and that’s totally fine with me.
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  • I really appreciate the responses. I will be stricter then which will pay off in future generations. Is it easier in general to get superior colts than fillies? I've been having about 3 times as many colts test superior over fillies.
    Bluegrass 272432 | Forest 54250 | Mesa 9056
  • Are you having that ratio becuase in general you are getting more colts than fillies or are you actually getting 1 sup filly for every 3 sup colts ? I know I get a Ton more colts than fillies every season, so its "easier" to get more Sup colts
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  • No that's not an exact ratio. Just from today I have 9 superior colts and only 4 fillies. This is a better ratio than I had yesterday though.

    Edit: I guess to be fair, my best foal was a filly as determined by the game.
    Post edited by Mensie at 2021-08-07 11:56:01
    Bluegrass 272432 | Forest 54250 | Mesa 9056
  • Nope, I never keep AGAs intact. But I do keep them - In my show herd, bringing in the moolah :x
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  • @Maribo if I had a bigger show barn I’d Ben keeping all my sprays and gelds
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  • 95 to 98% of my 2nd gens are superior. A few rare crosses that produced fillies and have the exact genes I wanted I have kept and boosted to get closer to Superior. Colts are always Superior - no exceptions for the boys.

    That being said, I do notice that their overall avg foal PT is lower and they produce less intact foals when crossed with my boys. I have started to kick them out of the breeding pastures and use them for show horses.

    Everything past 2nd gen is always superior.
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  • All of my 2G mares test superior to their dams, with very rare exceptions.

    Although, I rarely test them against their own dams anymore. I test them against an expro foundation mare. I keep those who test AGA an ExPro and mark the ones who test superior to Expro. When I go through the mares to cull every season, the AGA expro are generally the first to go. If they test worse than an expro, I spay. Even if they’re superior to their dam.

    I started doing that because I had too many horses. I could and probably should raise the bar again to just keeping those superior to expro, because I have a ton of 2Gs, but it’s too hard. Some of the AGA are too pretty :))

    All my 2G stallions test Superior to Expro.

    (I typically breed from C/Yellow foundations)
  • I only keep those that test AGA to my generation benchmark, which tests Superior to his/her parent. I don't test against parent as all of my 2nd gens paper up, so easier to test to the chosen benchmark.

    I also cull by PT to some degree as I don't have enough stalls for all of the foals I produce.
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  • @GildedFire Then I would say you need more show ponies and less breeders, so you can save up for another barn ;)
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  • @Darkfrost: How did you choose your generation benchmark?

    @paradoxphoenix: Do you keep your breeders in pasture or not? Why do you think they mostly test superior?

    @Humboldt: Same as above. Trying to find out what I can do to get better test results on fillies.
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  • I geld/spay all foals that pass SBA but test AGA and keep them as show horses. All my breeding stock must be superior to their parents in their entire pedigrees.

    I keep my mares in their respective pastures year round.

    I breed from mostly C/Yellow foundation stock, with some B/Red foundations mixed in. That being said, I expect to see A/Blue at 3rd generation. I do get A/Blue at 2nd generation too, but that is a bonus for me. I expect to see Star/Gold at 5th generation. Star/Gold at 4th generation is a bonus.

    However with all that being said, there have been a few times I did keep AGA colts and boost them to the point where they tested superior to their sires, but they always passed SBA. The main reason why I kept those was because of their genes.
  • @Menstrosity yes, all my mares are in pastures for breeding with the exception of my special GMTd mares that I collect eggs from and the ET mares I use. That means every mare has a full pasture bonus and therefore gives me slightly better foals than if they were just in barns. It is also a faster way for me to breed. I have pastures organized by generation, and their genes.

    At the beginning of breeding season, I move the studs in. As I breed pastures, studs go back to their barn to show. I move foals into my primary barn to test and sort.
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  • @Monstrosity I test goals against their parents until one is superior. I mark that horse as my benchmark and then all other foals get tested against that benchmark until a horse tests superior to that horse, repeat.

    Every time a horse tests superior to the benchmark I also change the new benchmark to the opposite gender and test all the other horses of that gen. Of course I swap the horse back when I am done.
    Post edited by DarkFrost at 2021-08-08 13:11:10
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  • @DarkFrost ; could you explain that second bit a little more ? it confused me big time "Every time a horse tests superior to the benchmark I also change the new benchmark to the opposite benchmark and test all the other horses of that gen. Of course I swap the horse back when I am done."
    Post edited by annismyrph at 2021-08-08 12:59:01
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  • Oops, I meant gender @annismyrph - been a long day!
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  • Sweet Thank you so much for the clarification :) I was like what huh,?? long day here also which is probably why it confused me lol @DarkFrost
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