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A Cremello is a red-based horse (chestnut) with homozygous cream.

A Perlino is a bay-based horse (E? A?) with homozygous cream.

A black based horse (E? aa) with homozygous cream is called a Smokey Cream.

As I'm sure you are aware, a Chestnut horse with heterozygous cream is a Palomino; a Bay with heterozygous cream is a Buckskin; a black with heterozygous cream is a Smokey Black and the cream causes only a slight dilution in the black pigment that is very difficult to see by eye.

These colors are completely testable, but may, of course, occur in combination with other dilution genes.

Yes, if you breed a cremello to a chestnut you should always get a palomino. Buckskins are a bit trickier, since you've got to pay attention to the Agouti gene in both parents, as well as the presence of dominant Extension (black). Having two required genes in play makes things more complicated since Extension is dominant when heterozygous and regular Agouti is the same.

One parent might be Ee Aa CcrCcr and be perlino. If bred to a chestnut that is ee Aa CC you could get a variety of results.

Ee AA CcrC -- buckskin
Ee Aa CcrC -- buckskin
ee AA CcrC -- palomino
Ee aa CcrC -- smokey black
ee Aa CcrC -- palomino
ee aa CcrC -- palomino

I think that's covered the most likely results, though the ratio may not quite accurate.

Another thing about Double Cream, is that is hides Champagne. One of my lines that I am breeding is a Cremello Champagne. Though I just put up a few Perlino Champagnes mares up for breeding, on the forum. Here is a link directly to them.

http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=3180340
http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=3321489
http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=3329501

I know there is a splash classic champagne or two in the ones I put up for breeding, that have blue eyes.

I think they need to be Homozygous Cream to have blue eyes. Your best bet would be to get a Splash Classic with a No White Factor, so it doesn't show Splash, but have the blue eyes.