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Raising PT score
  • I’ve been working on this for a while. I’ve gotten enough superior mares that I have a full pasture and mares to take their place at rollovers all are superior gold/blue and are crossed on a superior star/a stud. Paper levels I’m happy with but how do I raise their PT scores? I’m really struggling with this. This is my KP line which is my main line.
  • Can you provide a link to pasture please?
  • Is it for this pasture? https://www.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?owner=243397&owner_lm=like&pasture=0&past_lm=like&runsearch=go
    I took a quick look and noticed some uneven lines . There appears to be some 5g and 4g although it's believed that only affects the intact rate for foals.
    Inconsistent horses tend to have weaker PT scores than of a consistent horse. Sometimes by .20 to .40 .
    I try to have a cut off line per generation of what there lowest pt can be . At 5g my cut off is 12pt being the lowest. Although some mares despite having a lower pt can produce high pt foals. Watching what they produce and what they are averaging may help you figure out which ones to retire or keep. Also rotating stallions may help give you a better idea of what pairs up best with your mares. I've gotten to a point where I have a journal for some of my lines sorting who does best where and what is often produced by that horse.
    Hope this helps a little. I'm still in the learning process myself and sure there's some long time players who would have better advice to give . :)
  • Are you talking about trying to raise the mares' PT scores? It is not possible to change an individual horse's score. If you are talking about trying to raise the average foal PT score (AFPT) then choosing the right stallions and culling any low PT score foals (selling them back to the game rather than risking someone buying them in auction) will raise the average foal PT.
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  • Something to consider too is that you are keeping the superior horses - their breeding ability is what is compared in that testing.

    PT scores are their showing ability. Not every superior breeder will be a better shower, but they will prodice better foals. In general, the PT scores in your foals will trend up with each generation of superior horses being bred.

    What generation are you at? What PT scores are you getting in foals? You referenced Star/A and Blue/Gold - which is my 4th generation. It looks like my mix of Gold and Blue mares crossed with Star studs produce around a 12.0 PT foal average.

    My 5th gens which are all superior and all Star/Gold crosses are producing around a 12.3 foal average. So there is a general slow rise in PT with each superior generation.

    Eventually higher gens get harder to produce superior foals as the line reaches its max potential. I struggle with my 7th and 8th because I don't use boosts.
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  • Yeah, I was struggling with 7th too, I don't use boosts either, but that's ok.
  • If using a superior stallion, the PT scores of the foals will, on average, go up. So not every foal. But higher breeding quality produces higher PTs as well as better breeders. But again, not every foal, as each foal has a range it can get to from the sire and dam. When selecting foals to keep as breeders, don't look at the PT score, select them because they are superior to their sire or dam, then they can produce higher PT

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  • I have no idea how to reply to someone, and I totally dont mean to hijack your post, however, @Kintara, how do you know if the foals are superior?
    Other than PT, what can I look for?
    I know you can compare for a few thousand HB's, but what about a public stud? how do you tell other than PT that is a good stud to breed to?
    I have only been looking at PT, however looks like I was doing it wrong..
  • Comparison testing is the only definite way to tell if they are superior, assuming the same paper level. Some public stallions will say on their notes if they have been tested as superior. However you can look at the stallions AFPT (average foal PT). Although the PT score has nothing to do with breeding ability on an individual horse, a better breeding horse will produce higher PT foals. So looking at the AFPT can give you an idea of how that stallion produces. Keep in mind that if the stallion has been bred to mares much higher or lower breeding ability than him, it will bias the results in that direction.
    If can be a complicated game sometimes! Comparison testing can be expensive, so even just testing the colts you want to keep as stallions can certainly help

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  • I compare test the fillies to their dams too and keep only the superiors.

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