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- annismyrph November 2022
- Brandybrookes November 2022
- Cavalynn November 2022
- Fiddler November 2022
comparison testing
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well, upon suggestion, I comparison tested all of the mares in my Good Satin Pasture.
what I cannot do is compare them to Stallions! (How come we can't compare mares to stallions?)
so now I know the rank of my mares, but I'm still a bit perplexed as to who they should be bred to.. haha. that's all for now. -
Well.. I'm sure there are players that know more about this than me, but here's what I think. While generations don't matter in and of themselves, a certain number of superior to parent generations will help you gauge quality across generations. For example, if you have a gold that has comparison tested superior to a gold dam (and the dam was a first generation gold, i.e. her dam was blue) then you should look for a star stallion that compared superior to his first gen star sire. If you only keep superior stock, you know the improvement is about the same increment for mares and stallions of the same generation, even if they are all the same paper level. So obviously a 6th gen star in a line that has also comparison tested superior every generation will be better than a 4th gen star. But if you haven't been comparison testing all along, you don't know where your 6th gen star falls. The quality may have held or even dropped in a previous generation, so just because the line has been star/gold for a long time or even if the high gen stallion compared superior to sire, it doesn't mean the line has been improving every generation unless you're comparison testing and only keeping superiors for breeding.
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Another thing, when it comes to comparison testing mares to stallions, some players gmt the gender just to comp test and then change them back again. If you have the gmts to spare it might be worth it if you can't be sure any other way if the stallion and mare you want to breed are similar quality. Otherwise you have to rely on "parallel" testing the sire's side and the dam's side separately, if that makes sense.
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Another another thing, once you have an established benchmark for each generation, you can test all your horses of each generation to that generational standard and not have to swap genders every time you want to test a mare to a stallion. Just test each to the standard mare and stallion for their generation (which would have been gender swapped and compared to each other to make sure they are the same quality) and if your horses test as good as those standards they should also be similar in quality to each other.
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swap genders to test??? OMG really?! eeeeeek.
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There are a few things you can do to test mares to stallions or have an idea where there quality stands in there lines. To comparison test mares to stallions some players do gmt the mare or stallion to the opposite gender and test that way then change them back. This can get expensive to do.
What ive learned over the years is not just even breeding helps tremendously over time but your foundation horses. Ive seen posts before where people wernt sure why there gen 9 horses were all being snipped and capped out around 13pt "i chose random numbers" looking at there lines other players had pointed out that even though there lines were generation even there starting horses wernt. So the mare was a yellow paper and the stallion was a B. Each gen they boosted only the stallions so each gen a larger gap was being created making it harder to get intact foals.
So what i would do is start with looking at the foundation parents. If i have a long term goal with a line start with two foundations with same papering level.
If you boost any of them make sure to boost the other too and comparison test them to the parents. Breed supirior stallions to supirior mares in the same generation.
Right now ive been working on era line breeding so i have a few that have to stay in the same era so limited horses to choose from.
Here is one of my projects for example. I dont gmt them to compare the stallion to mare but i try to keep the gap as close as possible .
Conducting electric 4
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@Brandybrookes ; thank you for explaining that so well ... this is what I was trying to say before but didnt get the words out correctly.
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Thank you @annismyrph , haha sometimes i feel like i am babbling too much and get off topic :)] . @fiddler i hope i made sense. :P im sure there are some helpful tips im not aware of yet too.
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@brandybrooks, thanks, and she's beautiful
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@brandybrooks, thanks, and she's beautiful, and no you're not babbling too much!!
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Your welcome. I know breeding generation horses is unnecessary as you can get the same quality out of two separate gens , but i found it to be a helpful tool. Comparison testing the foundation horses you choose to use all the way up to your current lines is super helpful. Having the foundation horses all aga to eachother gives a good base line for there foals and being close in quality. Then Comparison testing them to the parents and matching aga to aga or supirior to supirior to keep the gap in quality close. Alot of people use bench mark horses for each generation so they have an idea where there horses are for quality. Im not that fermiliar with it though but it could be something helpful.Thanked by 1Fiddler
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@brandybrookes definitely helpful. this might explain why my foundation Satins are breeding so much more successfully.Post edited by Fiddler at 2022-11-07 17:34:29