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SD Stables · Jul 28, 2015 1:39 PM

I am looking for uneven bred mares...and I am talking way uneven! Not necessarily 2g bred to Foundation. I am looking more for foundation accidentally, or intentionally bred, lined bred stuff...at least 4th gen or higher. I would love to have a few that are out of foundy mares and by a star stallion or Gold mare by a Foundy stallion. The more uneven the better. In light of all the "Uneven is Worthless" discussions in the past few weeks, I am doing an experiment. I have a few of my own already and the experiment is going quite well, so I want to add more to it. All I ask is that they have all been run through all free testing including SMT. Show me what ya got!

Ashadowlegacy · Jul 28, 2015 2:20 PM

Just wondering what an uneven bred made is?

SD Stables · Jul 28, 2015 2:51 PM

Here is one of my mares: http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=2778519

Her mother is a foundation Mare and was bred to a fully lined Star stallion...giving her and "uneven" pedigree

Ashadowlegacy · Jul 28, 2015 3:18 PM

Oh! I might have some like that! Here's a link to what I have for sale currently I can look through my others as well for some http://www.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?status=sale&ageg=&agel=&agee=&erag=&eral=&erae=&f_basic=none&f_adv=none&tattoo=&f_limit=25&stallion=1&mare=1&gelding=1&spayedmare=1&name=&name_lm=like&color=&color_lm=like&bty=1&lined=lined&foundation=1&sire=&dam=&barn=&owner=211869&breeder=&e1=1&e2=1&a1=1&a2=1&f1=1&f2=1&p1=1&p2=1&s1=1&s2=1&s3=1&c1=1&c2=1&c3=1&d1=1&d2=1&g1=1&g2=1&ch1=1&ch2=1&z1=1&z2=1&sa1=1&sa2=1&kit1=1&kit2=1&kit3=1&kit4=1&kit5=1&kit6=1&kit7=1&kit8=1&kit9=1&sp1=1&sp2=1&rb1=1&rb2=1&o1=1&o2=1&l1=1&l2=1&v1=1&v2=1&brindle1=1&brindle2=1&patn1=1&patn2=1&patn3=1&patn4=1&patn5=1&patn6=1&wf1=1&wf2=1&wf3=1&wf4=1&wf5=1&wf6=1

Ashadowlegacy · Jul 28, 2015 3:22 PM

Seems most I have are stallions, I'll look through and see what I have mare wise

Ashadowlegacy · Jul 28, 2015 3:25 PM

I have this one she's only a foal though: http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=3450782

Ashadowlegacy · Jul 28, 2015 3:47 PM

Another uneven bred foal, I haven't tested yet http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=3450838

Redbud · Jul 28, 2015 5:04 PM

I could be wrong, but I thought people used to breed this way. To "Bring the mare up to speed".

If you want a star Stally to breed to foundys I would be willing to sell you one of mine.

SandyCreekAcres · Jul 29, 2015 2:48 AM

Would you be interested in this Blue mare? She's even 4th gen on the sires side and uneven-long pedigree on the dam's.

http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=2297653

Ammit · Jul 29, 2015 8:18 AM

They are no different then any other horse but have less intrinsic value because the pedigrees are not as nice to look at. They also are more likley to be gelded spayed then foals from even ability breedings. If you post what you are trying to show with your experiment I am more then happy to help you out with numbers.

SD Stables · Aug 11, 2015 8:25 AM

Sorry guys...Life got super busy and this got put to the side.

@SandyCreek Acres I would be interested in her to add to the experiment. How much?

@Ammit I know most will get snipped, and I am ok with that. They make great show horses, but the few that pass are the ones I am wanting to follow, just to see. I definitely would be interested in horses that foundation crossed with at least 3rd gen or higher, or 2nd gen crossed with fully lined star/gold. I am then going to try and cross them back to an even pedigreed horse. Like my mare listed above in my previous post....I have crossed her back with 2g quality studs. I have only 1 intact foal from her, but now I want to follow what he produces. Does that make sense?

Ammit · Aug 11, 2015 10:00 AM

Not sure what you are trying to show with your experiment. A horse with a foundation parent and a fully pedigreed parent isn't going to be any different. :) Or are you just playing around with them for fun?

SD Stables · Aug 11, 2015 11:41 AM

Oh I am just playing around for fun. I just want to see what I can create and see what comes of it. I am not trying to boost any lines or make a mare paper better. I am just interested to see how the offspring show and produce out of uneven pedigrees. I guess the experiment would be to prove to people that uneven pedigree horses do just fine against even pedigreed horses. These will most likely all stay in house or be yummed.

If I had more time and were more statistically inclined, I am certain I could come up with some sort of cool experiment for PT's or how fast I could reach Blue or Gold with uneven horses, but I just don't have the time to keep track of all that.

Ammit · Aug 11, 2015 11:58 AM

No need to prove anything. I can tell you right now an uneven lined horse is half where between the ability of its parents. It doesn't effect showing or inheritance at all. You can take a foundation mare breed it to an lb stud and keep breeding each successive generation back to LB horses and get gold/star really fast. The game doesn't even know if a breeding is uneven or not.

Empire Acres · Aug 11, 2015 4:38 PM

I just bred some for-profit babies that are out of foundy mares by a 3g stud. Would you like either of these fillies? They will be in tomorrow's auction if you don't see this by the time it starts tomorrow. :)

http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=3464219
http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=3464220

SandyCreekAcres · Aug 11, 2015 5:34 PM

Does 5K sound reasonable?

SD Stables · Aug 18, 2015 10:14 AM

5k is fine @SandyCreek Acres

SandyCreekAcres · Aug 18, 2015 4:18 PM

She's up on buddy for you.

http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=2297653

Redbud · Aug 21, 2015 9:29 PM

3k?

http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=2520863
http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=2588149
http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=2831344
http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=2831347

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