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Feed Supplements
  • I'm looking for an affordable feed supplement for my aging mare this winter and I was wondering if anyone uses Kalmbach feeds. Would you recommend it?

    Thanks!
  • Never have- but if you need more options I would recommend checking valley vet. Personally, with our old "hard weight keepers" we had a vet tech friend who decided with us to do soaked alfalfa pellets, a scoop of senior feed and a scoop of soybeans 2X a day. hope that helps!
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  • I had never heard of them before, but it appears they carry a wide range of feeds. Are you concerned about keeping weight on her this winter? Did you have a particular product in mind from Kalmbach? What does her current diet consist of?
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  • She keeps her weight on just fine, I'm more concerned about nutrition and energy levels. I know my pastures are selenium and copper deficient and I'm not sure the mineral supplement I'm using now is good enough. Right now she is on pasture and timothy hay. I was looking at the Kalmbach 14% high energy pellet and the mix-plex trace mineral block. I would have mixed some alfalfa hay with her timothy this winter, but it turned out my hay supplier wasn't able to put any up this year. Do you think it would be a good supplement instead? Thanks!
  • How old is your mare? The block looks like a great compliment to her current forage based diet. Do you typically supplement her with feed in the winter? Have you ever had your hay tested? Your supplier may have had it tested before, might be worth asking them. Your local feed mill/co-op or agricultural school may have, or have contact info for, an equine nutritionist to help you more with her diet.

    Winter is actually the worst time of the year to add high carb grains and grain based feeds to the equine diet. Horses naturally take in less water, and live on dried forage (hay) increasing the risk of impaction colic from lower levels of moisture. A good portion of the warmer weather diet of pasture grasses provides a good portion of their water intake, which they just don't have available in the winter. Adding in the higher carb/grain based feeds alters their digestion and natural gut heath as the grains reach their hind gut and distrupt the digestive bacteria crucial to digestion.

    My equine nutrition teacher always said KISS - keep it simple, stupid. The equine digestive tract is made for a constant intake of forage. Her diet already sounds great, and if it's the selenium and copper you're concerned about, it's best to supplement those and compliment her forage diet for the winter. If you still feel like she's sluggish, there are "super" forage stuffs that could help her energy levels, water intake, and caloric intake. Adding some beet pulp shreds or pellets, dry or wet down, is an excellent source of easily digestable, high density fiber and energy.

    You'll notice a good portion of senior feeds are beet pulp, alfafa, or soy based, and typically pelleted. Pelleted feeds are like baby food, already processed and broken down. Forage based, and pelleted means easier to digest for those aged teeth and digestive tracts.

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  • Livestock do better with a lose mineral instead of a block. :)
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  • If copper is deficient zinc will most likely be as well. So look into a sup for both. You can by single ingredient supplements from Horse Tech (I've bought the poly copper and poly zinc from them for my own mare).
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  • Thanks for the advice!

    She is a 13 year old Arabian named Dancer. Soon she won't be on pasture at all. I'm up in northern Minnesota so we have eight months of no forage to look forward too. :(

    My supplier just started out hay farming and they haven't tested their hay. But I know the area and its never been farmed before. Its always been natural meadow so the ground shouldn't be too depleted. Of course that's probably not always a good indicator. A friend of mine told me they knew of a flock of sheep near here that actually died of copper deficiency. When the farmer had the vet test them the results showed that they had absolutely no copper in their systems. I've been reading that it might have actually been the sulfur from the coal plants that inhibited copper in the soil. Our goats always have to be bolused to be healthy. Should I look into some sort of copper drench for Dancer?

    Yeah, the grain issue is why I was looking for a pelleted feed mix with alfalfa for the first ingredient. I definitely want to steer away from too much grain or anything with molasses in it so I don't feed the bad bacteria. I've tried a few different enriched vitamin and mineral fortified pellets before, but after a couple days she wouldn't eat them anymore. I've given her black oil sunflower seeds before too and she really liked them, I figured it should be better than grain because of the higher roughage, oil and protein. I didn't feed grain at all last winter and I have some probiotic that I use and it seems to help keep her digestion regular. And I also bought some alfalfa cubes to feed in the real cold of winter. I know this sounds like a lot of supplements to throw at her, but from year to year I haven't been able to get the same quality hay and I wanted to make sure she was getting what she needed. In a few years I'll hopefully be growing my own hay and that won't be a problem.

    I know loose mineral is best, actually cattle really are the only livestock that benefit fully from a block mineral, but the last time I used it the minis thought it was fun to bite the edge of the dish and spill it. I suppose I could get something loose just for Dancer and give it to her in separate rations. I am also getting some loose pink sea salt to mix with kelp meal. I've given her gray sea salt and kelp before and she really liked it, but I didn't have enough then to give it to her regularly.

    So, what do you think of adding some alfalfa cubes, sea salt and kelp mixed with this pellet, and then the block free choice? What about adding some black oil sunflower seeds?

    Thanks again!
  • Alfalfa cubes alone would supplement a good portion of her diet. Those alone will provide 15% protein and be a great source of highly digestible fiber. The salt is always a great idea, year round. I'm not familiar with feeding Kelp, but what nutritional info I found on kelp meal shows it will supplement your copper and selenium. I love BOSS. It's a great cost effective source of fat. Between the cubes, the salt, the meal, the BOSS, and the block, I don't see the point in spending the money on adding the pelleted feed. But, if you feel she will benefit from it, that's your call. She sounds like a fairly easy keeper, so to me it doesn't sound like money worth spending, given the rest of the diet.
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  • We have 34 horses at my barn in Massachusetts. Gotta love new England winters. :/ They are all different ages and breeds, but the majority are are on the "geriatric" side; over 15 with some well into their 30's :) With the exception of a select few, they are on a feed called LS Sentinel by Blue Seal. We have some ridiculously hard keepers as well as the ones who get fat off of air. This feed has done wonders for everyone in every way!! We have a few who can not eat hay, so they get added hay cubes (soaked) or alfalfa pellets and 2 who just get the LS and no hay type of any kind.
    Here is the link for its info. https://www.sentinelfeed.com/pdfs/blueseal_sellsheet_LS.pdf
    It's an extruded complete feed recommended by numerous vets. (We had to have a few specialists out for different issues, one being a stomach/digestion problem, and they all said the same thing.) I will not go to another feed again after seeing how this has benefited all of our guys and gals! Good Luck!! :)
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