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- Abbey98 October 2015
- Forestshadow October 2015
- Gael4ce November 2015
- Helia November 2015
- Raina November 2015
- Summersend November 2015
- ZipZap Lane October 2015
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Pricing Horses
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I am sure this has been brought up a few times, but I was thinking ...what if there is a page for giving suggestive prices on horses? Reason is, I am at a lost as to what to price my horses when I put them in the auction and/or up for sale in my barn. I really don't want to lowball myself nor ask for a price that's not going to get the horse moving.
Do you think this is this something that could be implimented the near future to help us folks who aren't sure of market prices sell their stock at a particular amount?
I think this feature should base the estimated price on age, color, training, testing and papering scores, etc.
If you think is a good or bad idea, please state why. Any suggestions to add or take away is always appreciated :) -
I believe it is a good idea. But prices on horses fluctuate alot. At one point a w4 straw sold for 1 million and now they are worth $15-$90 depending on the line. To be 100% honest sometimes (even the large mentor barns) have a problems hitting the perfect price.
Factors of costs include: even lined or uneven (pedigree), genes, paper level, and points.
Examples
This horse is worth $2500 or less. Because no points and already 3 years old. She has missed out on 3 years of points and is a spayed mare.
http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=3568153
This horse is worth about $6500 but people would gladly pay $10k for her because she is a black Xpro and many players love black xpros.
http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=3478291
This horse is worth about $8500 but people would pay $15k for her because of the silver and xpro.
http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=3526734Post edited by Abbey98 at 2015-10-26 15:52:22 -
When I sell horses, it's generally $5,000 minimum. It's just to cover the costs for gene testing and performance testing and make a little profit. Other than that, I let the buyer determine how high he/she will pay beyond the 5k.
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Abbey98, thank you for your input. I understand the fluctuations and how it could vary day to day or even month to month, it's difficult to tell if the given price is what the market is going to go for just as you stated above with the example. I think maybe this new system could use lineage Paper scores from either A) last 3 generations, or B) more than 3 generations to factor in for the numbers ($) as well as use the current paper score to give a ballpark range of what the average price is going for the same type of horse. This could also be used for Foals and Spayed/Gelded horses.
So many ideas, but ultimately it's up to Ammit and the community to decide if this is a good idea :)
Forestshadow, thank you as well for your input. That is a decent starting point price-wise and I agree with letting the buyer determine the amount they would like to spend :)
Post edited by ZipZap Lane at 2015-10-26 17:08:38 -
What I typically look at other horses on the market that have similar stats at whatever horse I'm looking to sell and price somewhere in the middle of what other people are asking for and if someone wants the price lower then I'm happy to negotiate as long as I feel we're both getting good deals.206889
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In terms of breeding horses, I have no idea what they're worth and I'll do a little research into similar horses before putting them up for sale. However, I also like to work with whoever I'm selling to in order to work out a price that works for both of us, since I rarely sell horses. In terms of spayed/gelded horses, I generally look at how much that horse can earn over the rest of its lifetime in showing bonus, and price it at about half to two-thirds of that. That way I get some instant money while someone else gets a good deal in the long run.
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This idea has been brought up before, and it's a no-go.
Firstly, it totally eliminates the whole "free market" concept, and creates artificial price standards that may or may not reflect current fads and trends. So if a new player trusts it too much, they may end up selling a "hot" horse way too cheaply.
Secondly, there's really no agreement on what makes good lines. Really. There isn't. Some people want the horses of the pedigree to all be the same color. (IE a black horse should have nothing but black horses in the pedigree.) Some people only look at patterns. (IE a tobiano should have nothing but tobianos in it's pedigree). Some people demand both (that black tobiano has to have nothing but black tobianos in it's pedigree)
Some people demand that the pedigree show an improvement with every generation (Stallions must go from C to B to A to Star) Some people only care if the pedigree is even. Some people don't care about the pedigree at all.
If you set some artificial standard to create value, then it forces everyone to try to breed to that standard. Then we have a bunch of identical type horses and everyone is doing the same thing and people that don't want to do that thing aren't having fun.
As it is, people can do what they want with their own lines and there's gonna be some other people out there who think it's ok. (And likely some that don't think it's ok, but you don't need to please everyone in the game.) It gives people more freedom to have FUN, and that's the bottom line. :)
And...it would be a programming nightmare. Ammit would have to create an artificial intelligence that can look at lines and make value decisions...that's a bit much. :)
Put them up for what you think is reasonable. Either they'll sell or they won't. If they don't, you can either adjust the price or maybe you'll decide it's not worth it to you to sell.
Post edited by Gael4ce at 2015-11-01 20:27:38 -
The market fluctuates so much over the years. In some cases, the same horse that would have been worth 500k a few real years ago is worth 5k today.Imation Stud ID# 2609
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