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Compass Point · Jan 16, 2016 3:16 AM

included are
-homozygous KP with SB3 (clone of a foundation)
-g2 Livers or DP carriers, some HZ for DP
-KP carriers (tobianos and sb3s are what I have most of)
-brown and brown buckskin
-brown appaloosas
-some Rank Specials

http://www.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?status=sale&ageg=&agel=&agee=&erag=&eral=&erae=&f_basic=none&f_adv=none&tattoo=&f_limit=25&stallion=1&mare=1&gelding=1&spayedmare=1&name=&name_lm=like&color=&color_lm=like&bty=1&lined=lined&foundation=1&sire=&dam=&barn=&owner=130653&breeder=&e1=&e2=&a1=&a4=&a2=&a3=&f1=&f2=&p1=&p2=&s1=&s2=&s3=&c1=&c2=&c3=&d1=&d2=&g1=&g2=&ch1=&ch2=&z1=&z2=&sa2=&sa1=&kit1=&kit2=&kit3=&kit4=&kit5=&kit6=&kit7=&kit8=&kit9=&kit10=&sp1=&sp2=&sp3=&pax31=&pax32=&rb1=&rb2=&o1=&o2=&l1=&l2=&ice1=&icei=&ice2=&ice3=&ice4=&ice5=&ice6=&ice7=&ice8=&brindle1=1&brindle2=1&wf1=1&wf2=1&wf3=1&wf4=1&wf5=1&wf6=1

Compass Point · Jan 17, 2016 6:11 PM

adding more horses at this time. Some Ex Pro (some patterned) mares and a few more Rank Specials.

smswiere · Jan 17, 2016 8:17 PM

KP is a special added gene that you get from gene modification, not just the Kit^something. Do your horses actually have the Kit Promoter gene?

Ritsika · Jan 17, 2016 8:50 PM

@smswiere, some of the horses do, in fact, carry KP. CP Get Appointed is an example because the sire is homozygous KP so he passed on one copy of KP.

Compass Point · Jan 18, 2016 12:20 AM

If I have labeled a horse has KP, that horse, does indeed have one copy of KP via sire or dam. In the case of the one yearling, he is a clone of a homozygous KP horse, therefore he also is homozygous for it. There are three carriers currently left and the one HZ one. Some of my KP stallions are hz roan only, so I made mention of what KIT genes the ones I have for sale have. I don't often put the Sb3 ones up for sale, so I thought it was worth mentioning. Tobiano was the other pattern I had the most of and then I had one that was HZ roan only that has already sold.

Compass Point · Jan 18, 2016 3:58 AM

just added some g2 mares. I'm focusing more on sport ponies, so Warmbloods I was able to part with have started getting tossed up. There are KP carriers (W2, Sb3, Sb1), GP carriers, Liver chestnuts (both homozygous for DP and heterozygous for DP), some sabino1 horses, a couple of S+/Sb2 horses....there will be more, but I'm out of room :)

Compass Point · Jan 18, 2016 4:54 AM

oh, and some of the mares are g3...and they go back on both sides to homozygous KP foundations so there IS a chance they may have one copy of KP. But no promises :)

smswiere · Jan 18, 2016 6:19 AM

How can you tell if a horse has KP or not? Is there a visual clue or do you have to make a guess based on their family tree?

Kat8805 · Jan 18, 2016 6:28 AM

Homozygous KP horses, with a game on each Kit place will have to any patches on their body. Heterozygous KP horses, or homozygous KP horses with only one Kit gene will not exhibit this roaning.

Compass Point · Jan 18, 2016 6:29 AM

On my g2--I know they have a copy because a parent has a copy. On the g3--it would be a guess until you could breed to find out, and even then it could take several foals. I only guarantee that the g2s have a copy if KP and that the clone is HZ KP. The others have a possible KP carry based on pedigree.

Kat8805 · Jan 18, 2016 6:31 AM

Homozygous with 2 kit genes - http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=3542682
http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=3759171

Compass Point · Jan 18, 2016 6:35 AM

Here is a good example of one of those may or may nots for sale: http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=3329886

Both of her parents are KP carriers. We know this because each of their sires were HZ KP

She has roan and tobiano. She doesn't show any of the visible HZ KP with two KIT gene looks. So. She is either a carrier (got a copy from one parent) or she is not (neither parent passed on their sole copy).

I would breed her to a HZ KP with two KIT genes to try and figure out if she has KP. If she pops out a foal with those roany/bleachy sections, you then know she is a carrier.

Compass Point · Jan 22, 2016 10:07 AM

I just added several more mares--DP, g2, g3, and a couple g4 mares. 11.something are on the higher end of PTs up...

come have a looksie :)

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