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IV barn purchases - how does the additional percentage change?
  • According to the IV manager, I have 2,830 non-primary stalls, and pay an extra 67% on stalls. I'm currently looking to sell back my numerous smaller show barns in exchange for a few larger ones, but I'm not sure if it's worth it.
    I did some math, and according to the manager, I can get 337 IVs for selling my existing show barns (1,155 stalls total). That would also bring my non-primary stall count down to 1,675. As it currently stands, a new 1000-stall barn would cost me 556 IVs.
    My question is: if my non-primary stall count was lowered to 1,155, how would my price for a new 1000-stall barn change? At what rate does the extra % increase based on your number of non-primary stalls?

    **I just thought of something... Say I sell back those little barns, getting rid of 1,155 stalls - would the game say I still have those stalls, since all the horses from the little barns would by shoved to my primary and still take up space? Would my extra % on stalls change at all?

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  • I’ve wondered the same thing! I don’t have the answer, but I do have one more data point.

    5230 stalls, 155%
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  • Hopefully Ammit comes to explain
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  • It doesn’t count how many horses you have just how many non primary stalls you have. Empty or not doesn’t matter.
    Post edited by Bandit1119 at 2020-02-07 06:07:12
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  • It's a bit below your lowered count of 1675, but here's my data.

    1305 stalls, 11%
    1,000 stall barn 369 IVs
    Post edited by ztcreek at 2020-02-07 08:59:59
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  • My data

    6420 stalls, 199%
    1000 stall barn, 995 IVs
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  • I started a spreadsheet to log everyone’s data, but I am not the best at math :))
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  • @LenasHollywood if you don’t mine me asking, what’s your cost for a 1000-stall barn in IVs? For my scatter plot :D
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  • To add to the list, (though I know it's a bit lower than what you'd be looking at) if it helps at all, I'm at 1120 stalls over primary, and I pay 4% extra, which puts a 1k stall barn at 346 IVs for me.

    (Also posting in part so that I can keep track of this thread and know what to expect later on.)
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  • Thank you for your data point! :
    If anyone is interested, here’s the link to my (barren) google sheet for this:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IWsZoEGm3r-dE26uD8FBxKst0S6x0tP4vu_G0PixPuI
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  • 5980 non primary stalls
    183%
    942IVs for a 1000 stall barn

    Honestly, I tried the whole sell all the small barns thing on the other server and was miserable for the three months that it took me to get 6000 horses out of my primary barn. I couldn't breed or buy horses during that time. I would do it slowly and always make sure you have enough space for the horses you have. It was an incredible pain in the butt to fix that mistake and i ended up losing 100k+ off my daily bonus :'( (Granted, i sold like, 100 barns back all at once which was the most incredibly stupid thing i have ever done... lesson learned, never again :)) )
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  • 9005 non primary stalls, I pay an extra 294% on stalls.
    1312 IVs for a 1000 stall barn.
    yikes XD

    I also sold back a bunch of small barns last year to 'use' the IVs to purchase a 1000 stall barn, but i'm pretty sure i ended up losing many stalls bc of the sellback prices haha. now i just buy little barns every season instead of one big barn lol
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  • 2005 non-primary stalls, I pay an extra 37%
    456 IVs for a 1000 stall barn
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  • I'm a data junkie, so I'd love to see how this turns out.
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  • my main account:
    You have 3100 non primary barn stalls
    You pay an extra 77% on stalls.
    589 IV's for a 1k barn

    secondary account:
    You have 1080 non primary barn stalls
    You pay an extra 3% on stalls.
    342 IV's for a 1k barn
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  • Here's my data for your chart:

    You have 9875 non primary barn stalls
    You pay an extra 325% on stalls.
    1415 IV's for a 1k barn!

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  • 1000 Stalls - 1085 Iv's

    You have 7170 non primary barn stalls
    You pay an extra 226% on stalls.

    First time I looked at it since I sold some of my barns, not too bad! I sold 3 1000 horse barns think and a couple of smaller ones

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  • My data:
    You have 3885 non primary barn stalls
    You pay an extra 106% on stalls.

    1000 stall barn is 685 IVs

    July 20, 2020:
    You have 5095 non primary barn stalls
    You pay an extra 150% on stalls.
    Post edited by Alianne at 2020-07-20 16:51:46
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  • I'll add some data too:

    You have 9600 non primary barn stalls
    You pay an extra 315% on stalls.

    1000 stall is 1381 IVs

    I think I need to downsize again xD
    HJ1 160524
    HJ2 136

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  • These numbers scare me.
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  • Here's mine

    You have 5360 non primary barn stalls
    You pay an extra 160% on stalls.

    1000 stall is 865 IVs

    (not all of that is filled ... I organize by barn ... yah its costly but it helps with my OCD lol, I just can't think of another way to do it)

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  • OK it looks like the rate itself (of extra IVs to extra stalls) will climb as you get more stalls.

    I don't know how to figure out how much the rate increases, but as 1675 is 83.5% of 2005 (Chateau's number of extra stalls), you'd pay somewhere between 381 (83.5% of 456- what Chateau pays) and 456 itself.

    I think that's right? It's not very precise, but the logic seems to hold up? Someone please correct me if I bungled it!
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  • You have 3510 non primary barn stalls
    You pay an extra 92% on stalls.

    1000 stall barn is 639 IVs

    That being said, I now only buy 210 stall barns because there's a limit on how many show horses will show per barn.
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  • 6570 non primary barn stalls
    204% on stalls
    1012 IVs for a 1000 stall barn
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  • there's a limit on how many show horses will show per barn.


    @forestshadow Wait, there is? All of mine have been auto-showing just fine to the best of my knowledge.
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  • There is no limit. The system doesn't even know how many horses is in a barn.
    Post edited by Ammit at 2020-02-08 13:31:15
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  • Hmm, my bad, I was under the impression that only 500 show horses will show at any given time for.... something?
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  • You can't show horses in an overfilled barn, maybe that's where that came from?
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  • Well maybe that got changed. I dunno.
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  • My question is: if my non-primary stall count was lowered to 1,155**, how would my price for a new 1000-stall barn change? At what rate does the extra % increase based on your number of non-primary stalls?

    **Looks like you'll actually be left with1,675 non-primary stalls: "That would also bring my non-primary stall count down to 1,675"

    Multiply your number of non-primary stalls by 0.123, then add 209. It's not exact, but it's within an IV of two for the examples presented here, so should give you a pretty close estimate :)

    SO:
    (1675 * 0.123) + 209 = 415.025
    It should cost you approximately 415 IVs for a new mondo barn if you have 1,675 non-primary stalls.

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  • Idk if y’all can see this from the link, but it’s a pretty straightforward line now! :)

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IWsZoEGm3r-dE26uD8FBxKst0S6x0tP4vu_G0PixPuI
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  • Cool!

    @Helia how'd you figure that out? I like math when it's not in a class ;)
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  • I did the math and I should only need 239 IVs to get a 1k barn, but the game still says 333 IVs are needed.
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  • @Xzeina the absolute lowest cost for a 1000 stall barn is 333IVs. It doesn't go lower than that. That's the base price that it start at
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  • @ Sherwood Stables, you posted "You can't show horses in an overfilled barn, maybe that's where that came from?"

    How can a barn be overfilled?
  • @OopsDotCom Barns can be overfilled if you sell a barn or pasture (all horses in the sold locations will be moved to your primary barn) or if you bid on horses at auction but fill up your primary barn before the auction is over. I think if you "Clear Pasture" to mass remove horses from it, it will also overfill the primary barn. Additionally, the number of stalls in your primary barn will change as you buy and sell horses (the stall bonus). If you sell a bunch of horses without breeding or buying replacements, you may loose a stall from your primary barn which would then cause it to be overfilled.

    The game doesn't like overfilled barns and will prevent you from doing various actions until you move or sell horses.
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  • Thank you for explaining!
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  • Anytime!
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  • If you're still collecting data, here's mine
    You have 3155 non primary barn stalls
    You pay an extra 79% on stalls
    596 IVs for a mondo barn

    Also in case this wasn't answered yet, yes, if you sell back the smaller barns first you will then have less stalls and the mondo will be cheaper
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  • this is mine :

    You have 2745 non primary barn stalls
    You pay an extra 64% on stalls.
    You pay 546 IV's for a mondo barn
    how ever my question is : if the barns are NOT full do they still count those stalls?
    Post edited by annismyrph at 2020-06-22 17:20:11
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  • Yup
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  • meh >.> I ve got empty barns lol and pastures ; did the add-on thing with the sales to make sure every went over 80bucks
    Thanks Tali :)
    Anni9

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  • @SherwoodStables - I used the data you all provided and made a basic point-slope calculation
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