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  • Hes Hom for it, so i know my foals are het for it. Bays are not showing. Ive gotten 2 foals that actually have GP out of all ive bred w him. Why is this?

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    Abberation
  • Gastra plume or GP will only show if its homozygous, much like KP or snowflake

    Edit - i want someone to catch me if im wrong. But homozygous GP also only shows on bays and buckins...and they have to have sooty (not S+) too..?
    Post edited by bravo25 at 2020-04-07 18:04:55
  • Then those other mares must have been het and passed it on, is my guess. So the only way to tell is breed him to bays and hope one is het! Makes sense!
  • Unless youre breeding him to mares who are het for GP, your foals will still only be het.
    Again, a horse has to be homozygous (and not black) to show GP. Youre breeding him to regular mares who aren't carriers so your foals are only het

    Edit: this filly is an perfect example
    Her parents are both homo/100% carriers, thus their baby is homo/100% (she's also in the club for GP)
    https://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=10610053

    This foal has a sire who is homo/100% and a dam who is neg/0% carrrier. Thus, their baby is het/50% and only a carrier so they won't show the gene
    https://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=10649730

    Hope that helps
    Post edited by bravo25 at 2020-04-07 18:41:17
  • GP does not show up in ordinary creates, so if any of them are hom their dam had to either have had it GMTed on or had to be a Ghost of Christmas Past HH.
    This is the only one I see that's hom, (though I didn't look through all of them, so maybe post the other one if there's two?) And if you click through to her dam, she had hom GP GMTed on
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    2g Abberant Spirit
    Spiderweb Stables
    ID Number: 238452
    He/Him pronouns
  • So breeding him to bays and hoping they're het will not work, sorry. It will get you het gen 2s
    Spiderweb Stables
    ID Number: 238452
    He/Him pronouns
  • Like others have said, GP only shows on Bays and isn't present in normal creates except for the Advent horse, Ghost of Christmas Past.. however what I do want to touch on is that the horse doesn't need sty and it works with sty and S+ as well for Gulastra Plume to show.

    Vindictive is my Cherry Drop GP herd sire..
    Unfortunately the silver washes the GP out on the tail but it's still very much there


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    NRH Vindictive
  • I know i saw 2. Hopefully i didnt send it to Auction. Mightve. But i got yas. He still makes some pretty foals :)
  • GP is also not visible on foals, you need to wait untill hey grow up as 2 year olds for it to show. before that, you can color test the foals, and see if the foals can be registered in the GP breeders club. If they do, then they are homozygous for GP and it will show on them as soon as they grow up :)

    The two Christmas Past-mares I gave to you are both Heterozygous for GP, so the foals have 50% chance of being Homozygous for it. If you get intact foals in the future from that cross, and hey miss out on the 2nd copy, you can add it in the GMT-lab, if you can afford it, it will cost 1 gmt :)
  • Ill do that :) those mares are in a waiting list, or ill throw em on the pasture i bred him in :)

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