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- Ammit April 2020
- ChateauAlbere April 2020
- FalhollowStables April 2020
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- Taliesin April 2020
- TiaWatson April 2020
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Why Bay not Brown?
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Because the horse is a bay. Brown is just a dark variant of bay. Just like a horse is only a liver if they are dark enough, not just because they have DP.Post edited by Ammit at 2020-04-06 12:05:30Need to contact me? Read this first.
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Gotcha so just because genetics says E/= tt doesn't mean they are going to show as brown they may show as bay.Post edited by TiaWatson at 2020-04-06 12:09:34
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They have darkening genes. This horse has none.Need to contact me? Read this first.
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Also, my understanding is that hom brown (At/At) do not come out brown. Only het brown will actually be a "brown" horse. Hopefully that also answers your question :) I bred for brown horses for a bit and it is tricky because they are recessive like that.Post edited by FalhollowStables at 2020-04-28 18:02:41
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Yes this post is almost a month old now but for future reference for possible new players...
A(t)a = brown
A(t)A(t), A(t)A+, A(t)A = Bay
Gene guide stating how the Agouti genes work..
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Hom browns are brown if they have sooty, like the True Breeding Brown Appaloosa HH
10515390 Brindle Brown ApSpiderweb Stables
ID Number: 238452
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Ok, you guys made me curious, so I applied some creative searching to the issue and here's what I figured out:
A(t)a = brown, regardless of darkening genes
A(t)A(t) with at least one darkening gene, either sooty or DP = brown (fun fact- at the time of this writing there are exactly 100 horses in the game who are A(t)A(t) brown with no sooty, because they have DP. This would have been a thing to figure out before DP got added to the gene testing, lol, since it would confirm the presence of DP in those horses)
A(t)A(t) with no darkening genes = bay
And an A or A(+) in there makes baySpiderweb Stables
ID Number: 238452
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A(t) and A or A(+) being bay makes sense, since they're dominant to A(t). A(t)A(t) not being brown if they don't have darkening genes but A(t)a being brown without darkening genes seems weird and I'm not entirely certain I understand why."Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving." - PTerry Pratchett
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I guess like cream or splash, one copy has a different effect than two copies?"Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving." - PTerry Pratchett
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That is exactly it. One copy removes some black, but two copies removes more black. Wild bay removes the most black.Need to contact me? Read this first.
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