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OopsDotCom · Jun 26, 2020 8:44 PM

Kit Promoter 2

KP2 is found at the same location as KP. It requires one copy of KP2 and one copy of a KIT mutation to activate. It interacts with most markings except appaloosa and roan. Visible markings are required for it to show. If two KIT mutation and KP are present the two genes will strongly react.

So Do I want Appaloosa and Roan, or not want Appaloosa or Roan?

If two KIT mutation and KP are present the two genes will strongly react.

Strongly react how?

Thank you.

SilverCreekFarm · Jun 26, 2020 9:52 PM

KP2 doesn't interact with roan or appy, only the other Kit genes.
KP+KP2 with two kit genes looks like this:

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2 Besslavny bMU

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kind of a "stronger" looking version of hom KP

OopsDotCom · Jun 27, 2020 3:23 AM

What would you think pearl would do to them? What would you suggest to make the color the same as the example?

ConfluenceStable · Jun 27, 2020 9:27 AM

Pearl is not dependent on any of the Kit genes, so it would have no effect (besides possibly lightening the base color)

OopsDotCom · Jun 27, 2020 9:34 AM

Would Satin work? (I've been reading the user guide but it's entirely possible that I read this but didn't understand.) What genes do I need to turn the horse color to the Kit Promoter example, the sort of yellow color it has?

Wolvevenfrost · Jun 27, 2020 9:47 AM

No Satin is it's own thing.
I'll help you.❤

You don't want Roan and Appaloosa. They won't show the effects of KP2.

These are the Kit Genes

Kit r This is Roan, you don't want this as it won't work.

Kit to Tobino can work
Kit w White 1 can work
Kit w2 White 2 can work
Kit w3 White 3 can work
Kit m   kit m can work
Kit sb1 Sabino 1 can work
Kit sb2 Sabino 2 can work
Kit w8   White 8 can work
Kit w10 White 10 can work

Kit w20 White 20 increases the amount of white there is depending on what the White factor is. None, minimal, light, medium, heavy, extensive. It acts more like a whiting booster. I'll post some examples.

annismyrph · Jun 27, 2020 9:48 AM

the "yellow" is I believe either a washed out Chestnut / Palomino or a Sooty Cremello

Wolvevenfrost · Jun 27, 2020 10:26 AM

This boy has W3 and Tobino. KP2 interacts with both. The W3 is on his hind leg next to his stomach, the rest is Tobino. The smearing, haze, or fog that you see around these white patches are exactly what the KP2 does.

Cracking Lovers

This girl just has W3. W3 is pretty splotchy, hence why the KP2 shows so well because there are lots of little or tiny white patches to show itself on.

The Night Of Perfection

For comparison, this girl does not have KP2. See how Cracking Lovers white patches has different edges? That's KP2. This girls edges are much more sharp because she does not have it.

Spotnight Solar

Maribo · Jun 27, 2020 10:27 AM

No it's either a no sooty red dun or palomino dun I think. It has barring.

Edit: The example horse I mean :)

Wolvevenfrost · Jun 27, 2020 10:29 AM

@Maribo I was thinking Red Dun too. I had the perfect example horse that matched this exact color but I just can't find it.

Alianne · Jun 27, 2020 10:36 AM

AC Ends Juicy

This is the example horse

Wolvevenfrost · Jun 27, 2020 10:57 AM

@Alianne thanks!❤

bravo25 · Jun 27, 2020 12:54 PM

From what Ive seen with patterns & distinction, its that KP gives that hazy, grey like shading when homozygous (doesn't show as het). KP2 it basically a buffer, and it soften the edges of white so it looks like a soft blushing (@Wolvenfrost gives a nice example)

AmethystStables · Jun 27, 2020 2:40 PM

Just to piggyback off of what other people have said, here are some of my horses that have Kp2.. Homozygous Kp2 (2 copies) doesn't make it look more intense, I just make most of mine homozygous so the foals are guaranteed to have atleast 1 copy. My favorite thing is KitM with Kp2.

https://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=9749850

https://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=10914934
This one has appaloosa, but it doesn't change the way the spots look with Kp2 because it is not a Kit gene. I will only really do GMT work to appaloosas that are from the Evergreen Boughs because they won't ever varnish lol.

https://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=10397615
W8 also looks nice with Kp2.. which is also a kit gene :)

OopsDotCom · Jun 27, 2020 2:51 PM

Thank you so much for the Pictures. You can be sure I'll be looking carefully at their genetics. And thank you so much for posting the horse that is the example one, I'm a bit confused by the gene modification, hopefully that will sort out. Pay is in the bank so I'll be dgging into my purse this week.

:)

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