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Needs 2 chinchilla to show. Other than that you can use any base color you want.
Chestnut Chinchilla turns the horse white with red eyes.
Black Chinchilla doesn't do anything to the coat or eyes (as far as I've seen while breeding chinchilla)

A Previous comment in the forums said it shows up best on silver black, but when i added that to the search (one 'must have" each), no horses came up on the search at all. I must still be doing something wrong. And thanks for the pointers!

Yes, you'll need to purchase the license through the Random Gene Sales whenever it shows up next. Once you do, you'll be able to purchase other intact horses, straws, eggs, embryos from other players. It is recessive, so you need two copies for it to show.

Chestnut, Bay, Brown, Black, Chocolate (bb not DP liver palominos) - Chinchilla is vastly different between the colors. It affects red hairs, causing chestnuts to appear white with red eyes like lab mice. Blacks get super dapples, looks really good with silver blacks. Bays, browns, buckskins get that soft white belly. (my favorite!) Chocolate bay/browns get a really nice liver kinda color with the soft white belly.

Here is one of mine, a dark buckskin -

bjs A New Hope

Without you sharing the link you are trying, we can't see what's wrong. ;)
It shows up in the color name, so you can also search for it that way.
Here is a search link for horses that do not have Chn (therefore all horses must be homogeneous for chn/chn), foundation stallions under 5 yrs old:
https://www.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=1&status=any&ageg=&agel=5&agee=&erag=&eral=&erae=&heightg=&heightl=&heighte=&boneg=&bonel=&bonee=&f_basic=none&f_adv=none&f_limit=25&stallion=1&bty=1&nbty=1&foundation=1&name=&name_lm=like&color=&color_lm=like&owner=&owner_lm=like&breeder=&breeder_lm=like&sire=&sire_lm=like&dam=&dam_lm=like&barn=&barn_lm=like&pasture=&past_lm=like&tattoo=&tat_lm=like&tat_and=and&club=&bc_lm=like&bc_and=and&e1=&e2=&a1=&a4=&a2=&a3=&f1=&f2=&p1=&p2=&s1=&s2=&s3=&c1=&c2=&c3=&d1=&d3=&d2=&d4=&g1=&g2=&ch1=&ch2=&z1=&z2=&sa2=&sa1=&mu2=&mu1=&chn2=&chn1=2&b2=&b1=&tig1=&tig2=&tig3=&kit1=&kit2=&kit3=&kit4=&kit5=&kit6=&kit10=&kit11=&kit12=&kit7=&kit8=&kit9=&sp1=&sp2=&sp3=&spM=&pax31=&pax32=&rb1=&rb2=&o1=&o2=&l1=&l2=&ice1=&icei=&ice2=&ice3=&ice4=&ice5=&ice6=&ice7=&ice8=&ice9=&ice10=&ice11=&ice12=&ice13=&ice14=&ice15=&ice16=&nexn=&nexx=&nexr=&nexg=&nexb=&nexw=&rainr=&rainwt=&rainpl=&raint=&rainna=&PhnN=&PhnBts=&PhnGho=&PhnSpi=&PhnSku=&PhnPmk=&PhnAtmn=&PhnLace=&brindle1=1&brindle2=1&wf1=1&wf2=1&wf3=1&wf4=1&wf5=1&wf6=1

Chinchilla can be added to any Unbred Foundation Horse. You have to pay real money for it when it comes back in the RGS (Roving Gene Sale). It cannot be obtained any other way (if your wanting to breed for it). It's here right now till the end of the month, after that who knows when it'll come back. And any Silver Bkack will get the gorgeous dapples. The only thing they need in order to turn into those dapple show stoppers is for their color to say "Silver Black". If your looking for a specific color or look past that though we can help you to know what to get. Hope this helped!❤

Just to clarify, you'll want a horse who has one or two E (e is red, E is black) with no Agouti (aa)

I've narrowed it down to 2 horses and I have a cramp in my neck lol but at least the sun's not up...yet. All the other creates I had were basically the same with variations of flaxen and Pangere. I do know that the ZZ one is guaranteed to pass a silver gene to its foal. I tried to write this out 3 times and kept getting it muddled (it's now 3:30 am), it's more likely to make sense if I just post the two. If Flaxen or Pangere are important, I'll go back and dig them out.
https://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=11237799
https://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=11256948

Thanks for your help, you're all awesome.

And I know it matters whether it's Ee or EE or ee, likewise with A's, but those can all be adjusted with gmt's. The decision is between Ex Pro -Z 9.9 B, or regular create with ZZ and 9.8 Yellow. Too bad they aren't both old enough to just breed the two and see what I get. And I know the Stud can produce 50 foals, and the mare only 1, per year. That also can be adjusted with gmts. If only that silly -/z wasn't zZ. For that matter, I don't even know if the the -/z can be bred to become a zZ at all. Or I could just put a chinchilla on both of them, I'm about ready to do that just to resolve the issue. I've got a few free ones from buying HBs. It's time to do a little more neutering, I think, maybe I won't need to buy them then.

As far as the exceptional or regular create, that's up to you!

If you're ok with one a little older I'd gladly give you this girl
https://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=10601546

So the question is, how many GMTs are you willing to use to perfect the base horse? The closer you can find, the fewer GMTs you need to spend.

If a horse is zZ (written as -/Z in testing results) each foal has a 50% chance of getting silver. Z/Z horses will pass it on to all foals. It takes one GMT to add a silver gene, if you go that route.

Personally, I only use horses that are EE for my chinchilla line. I don't want any e's floating around in there, because eventually you could get ee foals, which will be all white and aren't what I'm after. It's one GMT to change e to E too

It's also one GMT to change sex, so if you want a stallion and can only find mares, for instance, you can change one to a stud.

The advantage of using a mare is that you can buy straws and then get homozygous offspring (important in a gene like chinchilla that must be homozygous to show) and straws are generally cheaper than eggs. If you start with a stud only, and you don't buy any eggs, you won't have homozygous ones until gen 3 at the earliest. But one foal a year really doesn't get you far if you're trying to start a line.

If you use a stud, you get a lot more foals, but most of them will only be heterozygous chinchilla. But if you can buy eggs, or even spare gen 2 colts, from someone with a mare, that will give you a boost too. If you can get a homozygous gen 2 stud and breed him to all those heterozygous gen 2 mares from your own stud, you get about half chinchillas in the third gen.

I also have a couple you could have if you'd like

CN1B 10744242

CN1B 11131893

Oof. But buddy I guarantee we can find you one

Ok, you have all been working too hard for me. It's time for me to shut up now and see if I can figure out the rest myself. I want to thank every one who has been helping. I've been learning a lot. It's time for me to take the training wheels off.

When it comes to real money, I think it's important to know you're going to see the results you want though!

Depending on how many GMTs you're willing to throw at this, what I did with my chinchilla boy was use an Exceptionally Producing black stallion, because he was B papered and was EE and het for sooty as well. I used 4 GMTs on him, but I put two copies of silver on him, made him taller (because I try to breed for height on top of my color lines, so this isn't necessary by any means), and added an extra Ssty. Then I added chinchilla, and he's perfect for what I wanted.


G1Ch Rune Observer

There are a lot of ways you can get what you want, but the move is to know how many GMTs you want to spend, and what you want your end result genetically to be. I knew I wanted homozygous black, silver, and sooty, and I wanted him tall.

0.0 Oh no, don't be making horses for me, please. I need to do the money part myself. I've got a few horses I could work with, the one i really like needs to have the white part colored and the colored part a white or light color. Now that something I don't think can be done. I did find a 3 year old silver black in my barns. Too bad she's already levelled off... I don't thing I am going to gmt that =giggle=

don't forget PT Score has NOTHING NOTHING to do with Breedability
again Show ability ( PT Score ) has NOTHING TO DO with Breeding

I have a couple of mares rotting in my barns :

LG Mind

A2 Silver Pockets

LG BlackoutTacoTownRS

A2 TruSilverBlu

Yes. It would be simple coincidence, not genetics.

What am I doing wrong? On a search, I un-check spays and un-check geldings, add my number as owner, and put exceptionally perfect in the tattoo. I've tried putting "xper" in the name as that's how I tag the exceptionally Perfects. Nor matter what I try, I can't find my own Ex Per's in a search.

Try putting just the word "exceptional" in the tattoo box

It also works better if you put your number in the Breeder name instead of your tag.

...my mistake... -/Z is the same as zZ
Not ZZ.

Thank you, I didn't know that. I look at the genes and the brief description but don't always remember what I need to know

How much do you want for LG Mind?

@OopsDotCom - Just be aware LG Mind is not an ExPro/ExPer, so will paper Yellow. :)

@OopsDotCom the Silver Pocket Watch is a Yellow papered Rank Special, which means they are 'Perfect' creates (Yellow/9.9PT). Here's a (mostly) complete list of which ones are and are not ExPer/ExPro.

https://www.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/43687/experf-in-herd-helpers#Item_7