Welcome! | Log In
BLUEGRASS SERVER | Year: 160 Era: 19

HGG Community Forums

Comparison testing fillies - Horse Genetics Game - Forum
Log In to HorseGeneticsGame
Members log in here:
Username:
Password:

By hitting the above you signify that you agree with our rules and conditions.
Forgot your password?
HGG Community Forums

Join our discord server!

Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

In this Discussion

Who's Online (6)

Comparison testing fillies
  • I’m starting to get into my third generation. I used to just comparison test all my fillies, but I just don’t have the income necessary to continue to do so. I’m keeping the ones that papered higher than their dams, but I’m not sure what to do about the fillies that papered the same, and I definitely do not have enough barn space to keep them all.

    Any ideas? Thank you!
    I’m autistic and I struggle with any kind of communication, so I apologize in advance if I say anything rude or offensive because there’s a 99% chance that I have no clue I did it. I appreciate your patience with me!
  • You could sell your least favorites but keep your top favorites and turn them into show foals. :)
    Thanked by 1Nightphoenix
  • I don’t have much experience on this since I’m still working on gmting my baselines, but I’ve heard the further into the generation you get the harder it is for foals to pass. I would send all that paper the same to auction or sell off
  • I'd speld and throw them in show barn personally. But I comparison test everything - and a lot of my 3G's papered the same but are actually superior.
    Post edited by DarkFrost at 2020-10-12 15:55:43
    HJ1: 266615
    Licenced for Watercolour, Chinchilla, Diamond Phantom Sparkle, Ice 2, Nacre
  • I'm in the same boat, I can't afford to comparison test so I'm doing a lot of guess work. I do keep the foals in my second and third generation who didn't move up a paper level but still inherited all of the genes I wanted them to. I've then been breeding them for a couple seasons and keeping track of which ones have produced a foal that papered up. If they aren't producing foals that paper up, then I spay them for showing. But I have no idea if that is a good strategy or not... very easy to run out of barn space. It is good to know that you get a lot of 3rd gens who are the same paper level but still comparison testing superior, DarkFrost.
    ID #265959 | He/him | Breeding Black Satin, Liver, and Grullo Arcturus Horses | Licenses: Mushroom, DFP2, Onyx, Axiom Blue and Green
  • I’ll be getting a premium upgrade for my birthday next week, so I think I’ll try and hang on to them until then because my comparison test fee will be 4K instead of 8K. Thank you!
    I’m autistic and I struggle with any kind of communication, so I apologize in advance if I say anything rude or offensive because there’s a 99% chance that I have no clue I did it. I appreciate your patience with me!
  • Before I was able to afford comparison testing everyone, I only kept 2G and 3G foals who papered higher (unless they were from expros, but I definitely should have still kept the rule because that line kinda fizzled)

    Then, I would cull every season or every other based on AFPT. Lower producers got spayed and either put in a show barn or auctioned. I also occasionally retired mares who already gave me intact keeper offspring and mares who hadn’t given me any after a number of seasons.

    Now I can comparison test more and raise standards more, but that kept my line moving forward until I could afford it.
  • Keep everything...save up for bigger barns so you can keep everything. I'm currently making over 60k per day not doing anything. Which in your average month/season is 1.8 million hbs. Then you can compare test to your hearts delight...even though I only comparison test like 20-30 horses and it's pretty random. I don't start comparison testing until after I run BA or SBA. And the majority of the time it's studs that have passed or I'm trying to find a replacement stud to one of my currents.

    Back when I had no money...this is how I picked mares:

    I would keep everything at a certain PT# and Paper level. At first that was 12PT and Red papers, then as each season comes around your PT# and paper levels start rising. Again set your standard for that season. Eventually your breeding mostly blue papered and 12.4PT...and then blue and 12.6PT...and then the occasional gold/blue and 12.8PT...and then your like me and I so rarely have less then gold papered mares and over 50% of my babies are 13+PT. I actually didn't start doing BA or SBA testing of mares until well into playing the game...it was a LOT of money testing everyone and I usually didn't have 2 horses to rub together for the next season. I would let the worst mares weed themselves out when I evaluated at the end of the season who was my worst producers, etc...
    Projects:
    - Lined KitM (black base lines) & (chestnut base lines)
    - Leopard Appaloosas
    - Overall PT development/increased show potential
    Thanked by 1Nightphoenix
  • You can have two, even three generations of blue papered mares that comparison test superior to their dams, so ONLY keeping ones that paper higher will rapidly mean you don't have any mares left.

    There honestly is no faster, cheaper way than comparison testing with a premium upgrade.

    You can make arbitrary decisions about who to keep and who to spay but at some point they're going to be arbitrary decisions, and that's not necessarily a bad thing but it is a recipe for flatlining your quality. I know, I've been there. XD

    The next best solution is what we used to do before dam-line comparison and SBA, when you had to use AFPT to judge breeding quality and even that was a little hit or miss. It's also not cheaper, and it's definitely not easier on your barn space because you really need to breed a mare a couple of times to see what kind of foals she gives you, and even then you're still making your best guess at whether she's better or not. (I used to do this pretty religiously. Then dam comparison came out and I ended up spaying about half of my intact mares because, surprise, they weren't actually significantly better.)

    When you breed a perfect foundation horse to a perfect foundation horse, you end up with foals whose PT scores are between 8.9 and 10.4. You can breed the same mare to the same stallion 10 times and get 10 foals with different showing abilities (and different breeding abilities, probably in that same range, but we rarely see that.) When you breed an exceptional producer to an exceptional producer, the average goes up half a point, to something like 9.5 and 11. That half-point jump is, ideally, what you want to see in each subsequent generation.

    I still have a formula for what I used to want to see as a mare's 3 foal AFPT saved in my personal notes:

    2nd: 11 : A/Blue
    3rd: 11.5
    4th: 12 : *Star
    5th: 12.5 Gold
    6th: 13
    7th: 13.5

    But 3 foals plus papering plus barn space is a huge investment of time and money, and you just said you don't have that, so... :)
    Thanked by 1Nightphoenix
  • I remember when dam comparison came out. Boy it was expensive but it sure did weed out a lot of mares.

Join our discord server!