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Seeking advice from horse people & book lovers - the book is finally finished!
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Hello to all my fellow H&J lovers! I'm putting out some feelers to see if there are any among you who are willing to help me out with a pipe dream of mine. You'll have to bare with me here as I lay out a few pieces before I get to the big questions. I'll apologize in advance for my long winded post, but I'm the wordy sort and getting me to zip it requires a strength beyond my means!
Just like a million other dreamers out there, I've had fantasies of writing short stories or even sweeping all of my thoughts into an actual novel. For all of my good intentions to see this thing through, I've been plagued with self doubt, lack of follow through and, I'll be honest, a good old fashioned fear of failure. I've got hundreds of characters living full, inspiring lives all locked in the dark recesses of my brain and I really need to evict them. That being said, I'm slowly herding them into little, pink, wrinkled brain pens to be branded and put to work. Unfortunately, I find that my knowledge base and my intent appear to be gazing at one another across the depths of a very wide chasm for the project I've been pecking at these past few weeks.
While I've had 30 years of horse experience to draw from, it has all been what I would refer to as "back yard horsemanship" meaning nothing formal. As a kid, I had a blast at local fun shows doing some gaming, pleasure, a little HUS, etc. When I grew up a bit, I was fortunate enough to be able to breed a few mares and raise my own foals (strictly for myself - not as a business) and train them as trail horses. Most of what I've learned and taught has been instinct or scavenged from the internet. It has served me well and my girls are happy, healthy, pleasant (most of the time - you know mares...) trail horses that suite me perfectly.
Here is the dilemma I face - I'm working with two main characters who have grown up in the professional world of horses and I think I'm way over my head. The first character was immersed in the QH world with a family who raised/trained reining & pleasure horses. The second character is a trainer with a pretty good grasp on both the English and Western side of the aisle. The third main character is a 4 y/o horse (of course!) with spotty history who is smart enough to be a huge problem when he being worked in a a way he doesn't prefer - being pushed toward reining - and blossoms when allowed to do what he seems destined for - jumping/eventing. He isn't the most pleasant animal, but both women see what he could be with the right guidance whereas the first main character's father who owns said horse, can not see past his initial demands of having the horse training, competing and breeding in the reining world.
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1. People who have trained reiners or jumpers to help me out with the ins and outs of starting a horse down that path. What exercises do you do? How do you start teaching the finer details to a young horse? How to do define success in that training? What are some of the technical terms you would need to see to find a scene believable? What makes a good jumper or reiner? Are there specific bloodlines or horses that come to mind when you envision a great competitor? Do you think it would be possible for a horse to excel at both of these careers or would the musculature of one interfere with success in the other? Would you find it believable that a horse could excel at both or is that too farfetched? I do not want to be one of those authors that creates a unicorn that can defy all natural laws, I just want a horse that draws a new perspective from an old man who is set in his ways.
2. People who show horses of all shapes and sizes to help me with the "politics of showing." What do you find makes a successful show horse? When showing, what sorts of relationships or rivalries have cropped up in your intimate circle or the broader circle of the show culture? What are the typical requirements of shows you attend - paperwork, certain tack regulations, behavioral standards for both horses & people? What do you think would be imperative to include in a scene at a horse show?
3. People who breed horses as a business to help me with the standards you set for your stock. What are your requirements for breeding stock? Do championships, points or financial winnings account for how you choose your stock or is it based more on bloodlines? Does temperament influence your choices? Would you keep a stallion who was perfect in every way, but an ass hat to handle? Other than poor breeding practices, what are some of the biggest pet peeves you would have when it comes to other breeders? What are some things you wish you could implement in your own circle of breeders or even just at your own farm?
4. People who love to read horse books to let me know what YOU look for in a book! What is the most important thing you want to get out of reading a book? Does a flawed character bother you or do you need that to make the story feel real to you? What is it that you want to hear most in a book that is centered around horses? Is there something you think is always overlooked or maybe even something that you find overused in the books you've read? If you've read a book on a subject you aren't that familiar with, does it bother you when the author uses words/phrases/objects that you've never heard of and if so, do you think that the book would be less effective if it used broader terms instead of more detailed descriptions?
In the art of full disclosure, it is also a love story between the two main characters - Violet, who in coming home after 13 years, is finally forced deal with the tragedy she has never stopped running from & Cadence, who lived a half life trying to be "normal."
Any help is much appreciated! You can either post here or send me a private message, but either way, I'm incredibly thankful for any help you guys can offer! I'm posting this on servers 1 & 2 to get a variety of perspectives.Post edited by High Five Acres at 2020-12-05 09:28:39Specializing high quality dark horses with lots of chrome.
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First off, I want to say how wonderful it is to see an LGBT story in horse fiction, because wow, the Equestrian community I grew up in only ever recognized gay men from Sweden (I rode a lot of dressage) and every other lgbt person was seen as bad. So that's so refreshing and exciting.
I used to show a fair amount, but nothing super high level. As far as some of the dynamics, there was a trainer in my area who worked at a barn that did Western and English, and she taught jumping. Her whole crew of kids and teenagers that jumped with her got scolded OUT LOUD in the ring and then if they didn't perform, got yelled at at the trailer later. They're not common, but somehow aggressive, angry, abusive trainers do end up doing well in showing because their students are terrified to fail.
The rest of the dynamic of my show experience was very positive, and usually people are great. I attended a show jumping show at the Kentucky Horse Park last year, and hadn't been to those arenas before, and people were really really nice and helpful about directions.
In my experience, eventers are some of the most level-headed horse people who really see their horses as friends, where I've seen a lot of old cowboys really see horses as business associates.
As far as your third question, I'm not a breeder, but I got my horse from my mom's cousin, who breeds Arabians, and we were pretty close with them for a while. My horse, Eddie, was originally supposed to be their next halter futurity horse, but they didn't really get along with him and he didn't get tall enough (so I got him). A colt they bred the next year ended up being who they took to Scottsdale and he placed really well, but he wasn't particularly easy to handle. The thing with Arabs though, especially in the halter ring, is that they make them harder to deal with on purpose, so that may not be the right reference. But his quality was good enough that they welcomed his wildness and put up with the fact that he was hard to deal with.
I think a lot of it depends on discipline. I knew another Arabian stallion who was used for endurance (and breeding), and as a 13 year old, I got to ride him bareback.
When it comes to books, I like a flawed character, but I want them to be redeeming in some way. Or at least endearingly flawed in some way. I also tend to feel that the "this horse who no one else could work with has connected with this one person who knows nothing about horses" trope has been way overdone and is no good, so it's really cool to see you have two capable people as your main characters.
I grew up reading the Thoroughbred series, and I loved learning new things in those. I think letting people look stuff up is definitely okay (especially since a lot of self-published books are ebooks, and Kindles make it super easy to highlight a word and learn the definition). I wouldn't want it too full of jargon, just because that can start to feel like the author is trying to prove something, but especially in character dialogue, I think some jargon is totally acceptable.Formerly OscarWildin
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Awesome info!
I have been craving a good LGBT horse book for as long as I can remember. I've read a few, but there just wasn't enough HORSE in them! Usually there was the horse who was damaged or the bad guys coming in to steal the horse. I want my horse to be misunderstood not because he hasn't found the right person, but because he hasn't found his passion. He has to earn his place on the farm and in the breeding shed and to do that, he has to win over the heart of Violet's father. I don't want to do the whole go to a show in secret, steal the show, win the gold, get the girl sort of book. :)Specializing high quality dark horses with lots of chrome.
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I love this. It sounds so good.
I literally just went through a mini "horse needs to find his passion" thing yesterday with my horse, cause he was getting so incredibly depressed. I even took his temperature yesterday because he seemed so down. But I took him on a trail ride instead of doing in-hand arena work and he completely lit up. It was a night and day difference. Cantered out willingly instead of threatening to rear, stayed calm on a loose rein instead of jigging, etc.
What breed are you writing about? I feel like that could play into the horse's communication methods a little bit.Formerly OscarWildin
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That is quite the coincidence about your boy! I used to ride a mare that went totally ring sour when she was about 10 years old and then lost her damn mind at a show with her very competent owner aboard. She was the quietest lesson horse in the world up until that day. After that, if you took her in the ring, even at home, she would buck and throw fits every other step. On the trails she was mostly back to her unflappable self again, though no one really trusted her at that point. She was a good brood mare and halter horse for the rest of her life. That image has stuck with me for the past twenty years. Ironically, she is the dam of my oldest child, Skippy who is a ripe old 24 this year. I've had her for 23 of those years and she has happily played the role of trail horse for most of them.
The horse I've imagined is a paint horse with mostly quarter horse/appendix lines - gotta stick with what I know lol! I've got a picture in my head of a lovely rich bay minimal white splash with four socks and a big white teardrop over his muzzle. I did a quick search for the genetics of it and came up with this gal who looks similar to my mental image but my boy would have a bit of tobiano showing through.
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Ok I don’t know a lot about every subject question you asked but here’s are a few things.
I’ve worked with two breeders and live in an area with quite a few breeders of QH. The common denominator out of every breeding practice is they use their stallions. And those stallions are easy to handle, and had better be darn near perfect. The breeder I worked with the most her stallion was trained by her 10yr old daughter, that breeder said the stud got hard to handle between ages 5-10 but after 10 he mellowed out. The other QH stallion I knew was ridden bareback in a halter past a pasture full of mares without an issue. Mares are all broke to ride and the breeder likes the mare. The only mare’s not broke are the ones who were injured, but have either a good personality, or good pedigree.
One thing there is a huge difference between Appendix QH, and QH used for reining, at least once you get to the high end competitions with blue blooded horses. An Appendix QH is usually bred for barrel racing, flat racing or other types of rodeo events. Those events need a fast horse with the ability to turn on a dime and explode in a different direction. They are usually hotter than the average QH, they also tend to be taller, and put together differently. Reining horses are usually a bit smaller heavy muscling especially in the hindquarters, they tend to be level headed, with a quiet disposition. They need those things to excel at their sport. Of course there are plenty of exceptions to the rule, but this is the general differences. Just compare these two horses and look at the differences conformationally.
Here is a typical appendix QH
Here is a typical reining horse.
I personally like a little bit of details in the book that I might need to look up, to me it proves the author knows what they’re talking about. Also I think a list in the back with names and meanings are nice. I don’t like big changes happening over a short period of time like going from barely broke to a championship show in 2 months, or people instantly bonding with a difficult horse. I think certain people can definitely have good chemistry with a horse, but that doesn’t mean the horse turns into an angel for them overnight. Working with horses take time, and big changes don’t happen overnight.
Another thing to think of is the difference the horse is going to have to go through. Reining is minimal to no bit contact, with neck reining, and lots of slack in the reins, and low head carriage while collected. And jumping is almost constant bit contact, little slack in the reins, with upright collection.
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Yeah, going off what Silverstar said, when it comes to bits, reining is usually done in a port bit with a shank and chin chain or strap. A lot of that kind of communication is done through poll pressure versus a jumping bit, which will be a variation of a snaffle, typically, with rings instead of shanks (usually). Jumping uses bar pressure more for communication. Cross country jumping usually involves the rider's hands much further up the horse's neck (when you're galloping out, you bridge the reins and sort of lean them across the mane while maintaining contact with the corners of the mouth). The horse needs to be much more uphill for jumping and cross country, where reiners are usually low and have more sloping shoulders and hips.Formerly OscarWildin
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Hmmm... These are great things to consider! I'm picturing this guy as more rangy and less stocky. I'm not looking to make him into an olympic athlete, but I want to make it so that he appeals to breeding community because of his jumping skills.
Is there a particular standard for how high level a horse would have to be to become sought after by a wider variety of people? I mean, would he have to show nationally or could he stay more "local" (book is set in Pennsylvania, so by local I would include Va, Md, Oh & NY for potential showing venues) and still catch people's eye?Specializing high quality dark horses with lots of chrome.
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Well, it depends! One time I took my horse to a dressage show an hour from my house and someone offered me 10k for him based on his warmup and tests. So it mostly depends on how big the shows are. I'm not super familiar with the shows out there, but you could either look them up or make them up, depending on how factual you want to be. It wouldn't offend me at all if you made up a show series, but I also appreciate when authors strive for realism with events and stuff like that.
The good news is, the Kentucky Horse Park is far but not like, California-far from Pennsylvania and is a super renowned facility. There's also stuff in Canada, there's probably quite a bit in New York, if I had to guess.
And you should look up Teddy O'Connor, if you're not familiar with his story. I think he's great proof that you don't need to be a Thoroughbred or imported Warmblood to be super competitive, even if it helps.
I do know that in the Grand Prix jumping circuits and higher level eventing, riders aren't always owners. A lot of great riders have a contract to ride someone else's horse cause the horses are higher quality and the owners act kind of like investors (with varying degrees of involvement) and riders don't make enough money to import a horse themselves. Not that that's how it's always done, but it might give you some inspiration on stuff to look up and tweak according to your needs.Formerly OscarWildin
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Here’s my answer/thoughts.
The short answer, I think it’s more about what the baby can do, than what the stud has done. The studs I’ve seen as successful stamp their babies with some desired trait, and that trait is what makes the stallion desired as a stud.
The most successful breeder in my area are known for their superb barrel horses. Their stallion’s always seem to produce really well minded foals that are fast. They don’t race the stallions anymore that I’m aware of and I don’t know what amount the stallions won. But those foals are raced all over the country, and owned by very competitive barrel racers who only buy top notch horses. The stallions produce winners regularly, and that’s why the foals are highly sought after horses.
I recently started looking for through stallions in my area to see which I’d like to breed to my mare. I’m not in a hurry to breed her, and am look for a stallion that hits every box I have. This is my personal list.
1. Feet and legs
2. Personality
3. Confirmation
4. Hight
5. Athletic ability
6. What his foals are like
7. What he’s accomplished
8. Color
Personally I’d like to talk to his farrier and ask if there are any flaws with the stallion’s feet and legs? What flaws is the farrier trying to correct or manage? Because If a farrier does their job well you won’t necessarily see the flaws the stallion has with their legs and feet. I don’t want to have a foal with high maintenance feet.
What’s that stallion’s personality, Is he hot, or more laid back, Smart easy to train, stubborn? I’m going to have to live with the baby, I don’t want a stubborn, nasty horse.
Is he going to complement my mare? Does he have everything i’m looking for in a baby? If my mare has really delicate legs, I’d probably want to breed her to a stud with more bone. Personally I’m always looking for studs with good withers, I hate having to cinch the saddle super tight so it doesn’t slip, also I don’t want the baby to be easily injured because he physically can’t do what I need him to do.
Is he over 15HH? My mare is 14HH and I’m a tall person so I’m definitely looking for a horse with more height. This is something I’m looking for personally, but probably won’t be on most people’s list.
I want something that will have the athletic ability I’d like the foal to inherit. I don’t want a horse that stumbles, or just isn’t very coordinated.
Are the foals easy to train, athletic, have the qualities I’m looking for. The foals pretty much through the same list the stud does, or the list I’d have if I was going to buy one of them. Again I’m going to have the potential baby for awhile, if the foals of the stallion are all nutcases, or have a tendency to buck a lot during training I’m not going to touch that stallion with a ten foot poll.
That’s just the list I go through mentally whenever I see a stud and consider him for my mare. I probably have more items than some people and less than others. Other people may put more enface on different qualities. If I was going to breed a horse with the intention of competing I’d put more enface on numbers 3, 5, and 6. But since I just want to breed a useful horse for ranch work, I’m looking at other qualities.
Side note
I’d look into Reined Cow Horse competition a little bit. It’s kinda like three day eventing in the western world. It has reining, cutting, and down the fence as it’s three competition’s. It could be more believable that your jumper came out of stock bred for that, since those horses are more versatile and aren’t bred exclusively for reining, so they have a more diverse lines, and don’t seem to have a clear cut conformation stamp. -
Ok, I've done a bit of writing and I've got a zillion more questions, but the story has evolved into something a bit different that I had originally anticipated. I've got about 40 pages written over the last few weeks (not, much, I know!) and I figured I would share the first few and get some critique. Forgive the website, as I've just slapped it together in a few minutes using a template. I'm not even sure if the link will work - fingers crossed!
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Link worked lol ; Story sucked me in -.- i need more please !Thanked by 1High Five Acres
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I'm going to give it a read when I'm off work today! Excited!Formerly OscarWildin
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I have bred, raised, trained and sold my Hanoverian X TB's (which I no longer own because of a cheating ex-husband who is finally now DEAD, Poor thing). I never used live cover when intentionally breeding for a purpose, but ordered frozen semen that was shipped to my vet for artificial insemination. I chose those stallions for multiple reasons. A) his conformation and color, B) His temperament and handling, C) His history - breeding, showing, performance and pedigree and D) his specialties, usually looking for dressage, eventing and grand prix jumping. I sold over a dozen horses, both broke and unbroke, mostly because I had a good gut about the stud with the mare and I had a reputation in my area, along with some great contacts.
I owned a few QHs but I was not into reining horses or western anything, although I did enjoy attending rodeos - mostly for the bull riding and mutton busting. I never had a QH that I could show over fences, although I trained them to go both ways. I NEVER owned an appendix QH because every single one I met came down with navicular issues.
I stopped reading horse books when I turned 13. That could be a problem for a novel about the horse world unless you have very sound and intriguing human characters.
As far as technical or equine related wording, you absolutely need some, but don't over do it. OscarWildin does have it right when he says to include it in character conversation, but I would also lean toward descriptive definition in the general narration, not too in depth though.
Think about your own horse experiences over the years. Maybe getting a halter on a foal the first time. Walking the mare on lead and the baby following. Then think about reaching out to touch him, maybe snapping a lead on him too, if momma is not upset. Everything in training starts with baby steps. You can't force animals into anything without traumatizing them to some degree. Even a saddle pad can feel intimidating to a youngster. Asking them to walk over rails on the ground can actually be a big deal. Run them over an 8 inch jump while you lead and jump first. It takes time with babies but most of the time they jump bigger than you. Fortunately, if they are sane and well bred, they do catch on quickly.
I think this book would do best aimed at young adults rather than adults over 30. That's just my opinion of course. A true story, such as Secretariat, Sea Biscuit or Hildago have strong human stories in the background behind their equine stars. Just keep that in mind.
I didn't read where you indicated this story had LGBT themed characters, and I don't have a problem with that, but stand up if that's the fact and don't hide gently under soft or coy wording. That struck me odd, but maybe you did not intend it that way. Which ever way you go with that, I would be proud about it and not leave readers wondering.
If your horse is happy jumping....remember about 20 some years ago at the international horse show that was held in Washington, D.C. - a 15.3h QH cleared THE WALL. I think it was maybe 10 feet high (somewhere in there) and the best of the best could not clear it. But that little QH "knew he could" and DID, in a HUGE way. I was there and saw it in real life. It was unbelievable. The crowd roared like I've never heard at a horse show! Look it up online.
Good luck with your story, book, or novel. I'd like to see more stories like that written for the adult mind. ~Cherynne
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Oh, I'm definitely owning the LGBT part ((In my original post, I mention that it is a love story between Violet & Cadence) but the story has been slowly evolving into something not quite what I had imagined. I'm about 25,000 words in and it has been quite a journey. While I've always 'known' these characters in my head, they are continually surprising me and have created such different scenes than I had originally envisioned. The horse in question is a bit of a jerk, but his training is progressing nicely. Violet's father - whom I had originally intended to be more of a brusque, lay down the law sort - has turned out to be soft and sentimental and has given the horse a background story relevant to their family. I really need to pare down a bit of the horse language in some parts (I know I got WAY too technical) but I want this to be a very horse related story. I've had some conflicting criticisms from the three people I've had reading it as I go. My girlfriend says I'm making it overly 'horsey', and the other two have said they've enjoyed the level of horsey-ness. My GF is around horses, but not really a horse person and the other two have not been around horses much at all in their lives. I think, if I ever get it finished and submit it somewhere, an editor will be able to help me find that balance.Specializing high quality dark horses with lots of chrome.
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A little snippet of Violet's first ride on Jaws (nicknamed that for his propensity to bite) -
Cadence kept beside me, almost jogging to keep up with our long, swinging strides. She and my father propped themselves against the white rails after closing the gate behind me. Jaws snorted, whinnying back toward the barn, inciting a chorus of echoes from the horses inside as I gathered my wits, took a deep breath and swung astride. He jigged and bounced as I settled my seat into the saddle. I adjusted the reins, taking a moment to calm the nerves of being back on a horse after so long. I clucked my tongue, giving a small squeeze with my thighs to ask him to move forward. For several moments there was no response, then he lowered his head and took a few quiet steps and stopped. Instinctively, I tightened my reins, knowing this was all about to take a very ugly turn. He waited a few more seconds, standing like a rock, then let loose a tremendous buck and bolted headlong around the ring, full rodeo style. I clung like a burr to the cavorting horse beneath me. For an instant, we were totally airborne amidst a cloud of dust, then, as suddenly as it started, all movement ceased. Jaws, winded from the effort to dislodge his rider, puffed and pawed in frustration before spinning and tossing in a few more bucks for good measure. Sweat poured from both of us as he slowly began to unwind, and my heart thumped in my chest.
“Ok,” Cadence called. “Now that we’ve gotten that out of the way, let’s start with some small circles and figure eights. Track left and get the feel of him. He has big strides, but don’t let him keep that up. We’ve been working on collection and transitions. Quite the gentleman, isn’t he?” She laughed musically when I rolled my eyes and panted with exertion. Inside, I was bursting with pleasure. I knew I would be paying for all this exercise tomorrow, but boy it felt fabulous. He started off at a swaying walk, barely contained. We circled and serpentined for a while until he grew bored and started crow hopping once more, coiled like a spring. He was like riding a cloud – light and airy – taking no more than the hint of a cue for reaction. Without a thought, I eased him into a trot letting his energy rise, then a canter. He rushed forward, for the first time feeling enthusiastic about the task at hand. From there, sensing his excitement, I crouched low in the saddle, urging him forward. He sprang into a ground eating gallop and too late I realized my mistake. He gobbled up the length of the arena, gathered himself and took flight over the five-foot rail. Shifting my weight and using my left rein after we landed, I brought him to a prancing, self-satisfied walk, bending and flexing his beautiful body back and forth around the outer perimeter of the fence. He relaxed into a stunningly quiet jog, focusing on my hands with his butter soft mouth, ears flicking back and forth. His training showed through all the misbehavior like a beacon in the night. We rolled to a stop next to both of my observers, their eyes wide and mouths gaping.
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Oh that was great, that snippet hooked me in!Thanked by 1High Five Acres
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Okay, it took me until today to click the link and read what you've got up so far, but I love it. I also love how you write her meeting her childhood crush. I'm so excited to read more!Formerly OscarWildin
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A little update - I'm only 135 words short of 30,000! That equals about 96 pages. My goal is 50k so I'm over the half way hump. I keep touching the pile of pages thinking, holy $@#!, I might actually write a freaking BOOK! I am 39 years old and finally realizing a dream I've had since I was old enough to hold a pencil. Without you guys, I'd be floundering around writing some totally unrealistic drivel, so I want to send a huge shout out to all of you! I also would LOVE LOVE LOVE if any of you would be willing to PM me with your real names so I can include you in my acknowledgments section. :)Specializing high quality dark horses with lots of chrome.
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You're doing amazing! Congratulations! And I'll PM you when I'm off work (the mobile site makes starting new messages take a few extra steps, so I'll have to wait until I have my computer in front of me)Formerly OscarWildin
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Okey - the book is finished, It still needs some editing, but the majority of it is done.Now I have to find myself a beta reader who can tell me what needs fixed!Post edited by High Five Acres at 2020-12-05 09:31:22Specializing high quality dark horses with lots of chrome.
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