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- Brandybrookes November 2021
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Supirior foal ends up snipped?
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So for awhile I've been going with the rule of thumb that if a foal papers higher , tests supirior to dam or sire and is even lined then the chances that the foals intact are definant. I know there's another rule of thumb Where you breed close papered even lines for better intact.
My question is when you get a even bred supirior foal doesn't that mean that foal is better to it's parent it was tested against? And with it being better it would be intact as it's a better producer? I guess I'm at a loss and confused #-o as a colt I had ended up snipped that was even lined and tested supirior to sire :-/ . Am I wrong to go with rule of thumb? Is there another rule at play to why a foal gets snipped even if it's even lined and supirior? -
It might help if you provide a link to the foal in question, using the longer link at the bottom of its Info tab.
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Remember, even though you can only test against one parent, both parents contribute to the “average” that the foal must be near to not be snipped by BA. (That’s why when you bootstrap with a nice lined stud against foundation mares most of the fillies will be snipped if you test them, even though they’re definitely superior to their dams. They’re not close enough to their sire’s quality.)
My theory without seeing the foal in question would be that the dam is of better breeding quality than the sire, and so even though the colt tested superior to his sire, he wasn’t close enough to his dams breeding quality to remain intact. That can happen even in evenly bred horses with the same paper levels; all the levels have a pretty large range of quality within them.
Edited because I thought of this later:
If you want to test this theory and have some GMTs to burn for curiosity, you could ungeld him, change him to a filly and test him against his dam to see how he measures up.Post edited by erisna at 2021-11-07 07:31:13I mostly play on mobile so I can't usually see signatures!
Breeding Pearl Warmbloods, Little Red Riding Ponies, and... whatever else suits my fancy lol.Thanked by 1ConfluenceStable -
Erisna I forgot all about that! Your right. The mare is blue papered and a really good foundi producer where the stud was a high B. It makes sense now.