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The red papered normal creates are the same breeding ability as most of the yellow normal create mares. Most of my perfect foundations have papered yellow. As far as PT goes though I personally don't really cull on it, but roughly 2nd gen AFPT's higher than 10, 3rd gens high 10's at a minimum, 4th gen mares definitely producing well in the 11's. I only notice though I think when something is much lower and I go check out what else the mare has produced' I think Ammit actually gave a rough estimate of what you'd expect mares of each generation to produce at some stage

I wonder where that rough estimate is, I can't remember.

Wow, 9.9 is the foundation AFPT? I would've pegged it at 9.65, since I've had perfect foundations give me 8.9s and 10.4s and the average... well.

You really want to see a .5 point difference between generations, so:

2nd gen should be 10.5
3rd gen should be 11
4th gen should be 11.5
and so on.

Forestshadow, the numbers Stone Silo gave are the numbers I hold my normal create horses to.

Oh you look at AFPTs, not PT scores?

Ok, so is there a minimum standard to start working off, or do you just add .5 to each mare's PT score? Like for my 2nd generations, I've been trying to keep only 10s or better as the starting PT score for mares to be kept, so their foal AFPT should be at least 10.5. Or am I confused?

Hmmm... my problem is that I have only so much available space for mares. So I usually cull my mares twice - the 1st time is when they are foals, and the second time is when they paper, or if they don't paper by a certain age, then they get culled. I just don't have the budget wiggle room at this time to buy more pastures to keep extra mares, so for now the limit is 100 mares.

His PT would be much higher if he was more consistent. :)

You can run your pastures more than once a season. So you could have your first batch of mares for each generation waiting in the pasture when the season starts, give them as close to 30 days as possible, breed, paper mares, cull by papering, test all foals, find AFPT, and you can cull by that if you need. Then if you have enough space, from your previous culling, remove the culled mares, and replace with new mares for that generation. And give them as much time in pasture before breeding again. Lather, rinse, repeat.