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Testing Updates
  • I am about half one done with updating all our testing systems.

    Genetic testing works the same as before but can now be done in bulk on the barn page, or done individually on each horse's page.

    The new "Breeding Advice" test is replacing gelding advice/mare advice, the showing aptitude test and parts of inconsistency testing.
    1. The test will compare a horse to BOTH it's sire and dam now to lessen confusion from testing. This will make uneven ability crosses a bit less likely to pass advice than before.
    2. The test is a bit tighter than before and is now identical for studs and mares. We have so many new members that this will help keep quality up and confusion down.
    3. The showing aptitude test just runs automatically as part of this now.
    4. I discovered that the old tests had been spaying/gelding based on inconsistency for years. I have carried that over and tightened it up just by a few points. Once complete "Performance Inspections" will not alter horses at all.

    Strict mare advice is currently off line. It will be back soon in a more robost form.

    I do not have a solution for bulk testing pasture mares just yet. There may not be one to be honest. Pastures were not created to be extra barns. I have not decided yet.

    Post edited by Ammit at 2017-02-22 04:07:57
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  • Thanks for all your hard work.

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  • Wow, thank you Ammit!
  • This sounds awesome. Thank you for continuing to do such great things for this game.
  • This is all kinds of awesome! I love, love, love the new way of testing. Thank you for all the hard work.
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  • So all the tests have now been moved and compacted down to Genetic Testing, Performance Inspection, Breeding Advice, Strict Breeding Advice, and Breeding Inspection.

    Genetic Testing, Performance Inspection, and Breeding Advice are available to everyone. Breeding advice is as described above. Performance Inspection includes PT testing (previously an upgraded only feature) and the recorded score part of inconsistency testing. Breeding Advice gelds/spays based on inconsistency, but Performance Inspection is where you get something written down on the horse's page about it.

    Strict Breeding Advice is identical to breeding advice but uses slightly tougher numbers and is available to premium users only.

    Breeding Inspection is a HUGE change for the game. This is replacing all the old papering system. It works identically for studs. Mares no longer need foals to be papered and foals no longer weight their paper scores. They can be papered at birth like studs. Cost is 1000 for studs or mares, (500 to 1500 cheaper than before) and free for gelding and spayed mares.

    Comparison testing is the last test left on the side-bar. I don't expect it to stay around that long, but we are going to focus on some other issues before tackling that one.
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  • Thanks ammit all these new features are amazing;) but mine are covering the page atm. And it seems I can't click any of the horses underneath , I've tried to log in and log out again It seems to be working fine on my other accounts but this one . I'm loving the new updates by the way :)
  • I'm super grateful for this change. Just tested my comp barns, I'm shocked at the amount of blue papered mares I culled :-O Though the amount of failed papers made me laugh. Is there anyway we can give a cow prod to a few mares that are already tested but should have papered higher?
    Post edited by TawnyEclipse at 2017-02-23 13:01:56
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  • So, I'm mobile, but will breeding inspection at birth for fillies just be for future foals, or will current foals apply? I ask because I'm getting a message that 0 horses will be tested, costing 0 for every test I've tried so far. Which makes some sense, for most of the testing since I've already tested/turned off testing for everything in my barn. But fillies and mares that haven't been papered previously turn up the same result.

    Edit to add: Okay, tried Breeding Inspection directly in the control panel of an unpapered mare, and was successful. So it seems it's just the mass testing on the barn page that I can't get to work.
    Post edited by Kat8805 at 2017-02-23 13:44:42
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  • Hychi can you give more info about what page you are talking about and what sort of device/browser you play the game on?

    Kat same for you please. Info on what you use to access the game?

    Is there anyway we can give a cow prod to a few mares that are already tested but should have papered higher?

    I don't see why they would have papered higher?

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  • Just on the primary barn page the links for the testing are in the middle of the page instead of the bottom I'm on a mobile phone.sorry but I don't know the version on the browser it's just safari :)
  • I was under the impression that ex perfect with 5% boost should paper blue. All but one have, one has been red after every time I've bred her.
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  • Tawny , I don't think that breeding affects the paper level anymore;)
  • If you are able to take a screen shot that would be super helpful. They are just normal buttons, like any other on the site so not sure what's up.
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  • Can I send it over fb it seems not to be working (it's probably me )

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  • In regards to the pasture mare testing, what if it were possibly for a limited time so those that have their mares in there don't lose their boost? I'm not too fussed, just pulling mares out of pastures is tedious lol. It's probably just hard to do code wise. Otherwise love the changes!
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  • @clarebear you can go to any mares page and test her. You just can't bulk test them. I don't see any reason to have provisions for that now since mare testing is a once and done thing now.
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  • Thanks Ammit. i havent tried anything yet still getting use to the set up. I do appreciate all your hard work.
    I am on my phone only and it says that I cant test my barnin bulk. I was doing mare and stallion papering on my yearlings and it wont let me.
    Post edited by best friend at 2017-02-23 20:51:09
  • I can do the mare and stallion papering from their individual pages but not from the barn.
  • I absolutely love that spayed mares can be papered now! Thanks, Ammit!

    All the other changes are great too, but this is one that specifically caught my attention because it seems like it will be helpful.

    And @TawnyEclipse - I also have one pesky exceptionally perfect mare with a 5% boost who papered red under the old system. I've just ignored that because I know exactly how good of a breeder she is, even though the result of "Red" on her page is slightly annoying.
    Post edited by Helia at 2017-02-23 21:56:51
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  • If it says that "that 0 horses will be tested, costing 0 " etc you need to select horses to test.

    ETA: Works in tile mode now
    Post edited by Ammit at 2017-02-24 04:19:48
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  • I just wish I had enough HBs to test all my mares NOW lol
    Looks like I won't be breeding till everything is papered next season, which is a great thing! Already so many more show ponies, and less but better quality breeders!

    Thank you again Ammit for all your hard work!
    Post edited by Wyanawah at 2017-02-24 03:11:05
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  • Thanks so much for the new papering system. I'm currently in the process of papering my mares. Already found some girls that weren't up to my standards for their respective generations. Also, I found two golds lurking in my 5th generation pasture. No more waiting years for a mare to have enough foals to paper.
  • Just wanted to mention that when I went to my show horse barn where every horse is a gelding or spayed mare, and clicked on breeding inspection, I got a message saying that it would cost me 79,000 kbs to test 79 horses. Your post says it should be free for geldings and spayed mares.
  • Read the message again. " to attempt testing on X horses, for a maximum possible cost X" ;)

    It is free for altered horses.
    Post edited by Ammit at 2017-02-24 10:11:57
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  • Thank you for this new feature. I have been going through my mares testing the ones that couldn't be tested before and it has certainly helped weed out those who don't come up to the standard of their peers. I shall now be re-thinking my future breedings because knowing the quality up front I can afford to play around with pretty colours, or height/bone etc. :)
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  • @Ammit I just worked that out lol but then I discovered that I've got a mare that was originally a stallion and it won't let me test her because of the stallion papering. Not sure if you know this might be an issue?
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  • so just as a clarification, the strict breeding advice is only for premium members and not for the those with the basic upgrade?
  • Basic upgrade is required to test.

    Strict advice requires a premium upgrade.
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  • I thought I better link the mare I can't paper, http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=3088188
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  • You probably can't paper her because she's already papered. Pintala mentioned something similar; a lot of her former colts-now-fillies are stuck with their boy papers too.
  • I know but the old papering system you could change it couldn't you?
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  • Yep it's a known issue. Have not gotten it fixed just yet.
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  • first season with the new test system, 96 spays/gelds and only 5 intact babies after running through all the testing :O ouch haha!
    at least I know I am only keeping the better quality ponies for breeding, rather than 50 'meh' ones :)
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  • That will get better as your lines become more even in ability.
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  • Thank you Ammit for all of your hard work and for the upgrades!

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