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- Ammit January 2022
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Let me get this straight... Needing breeding advice!
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Sorry to ask another question on a different post, however I have a burning question..
Is the goal not to breed high PT horses to other higher PT horses?
I understand a horse can be a decent producer but not be a decent show horse, however, isnt that the goal?
How can a good show horse, lets say, 11 PT, not be a good producer? Wouldnt they also then be a lacking show horse?
Am I wrong to only breed horses over a certain PT that pass the breeding advice?
Im just trying to understand a little bit more. I cant bring myself to breed a horse that has a lower PT, in example 6, to a higher PT (10.40 in example) stallion. Wouldnt the resulting foal also be slacking in PT because of his dam's score of 6? Or would it somehow surpass both the sire and dam's giving a 10.80?
My head is spinning lol.
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The game is complex just like in real life.
PT/breeding ability don’t affect each other. Though higher breeding ability tends to have higher PT scores.
In real life there are dozens of horses that preformed amazingly in competitions but never produced foals of similar quality. Sea biscuit and Secretariat are two examples that immediately come to mind. So the game mimics real life in that regard.
There is a wide range of PT a horse can throw and as long as the parents are of similar quality (paper level) then the foal should pass BA and have a decent PT. Some of my best producing mares had PT scores 1/1.5 points lower then other mare’s they tested as good as. But those lower PT scored mare’s out preformed the higher PT mares at every turn. Higher PT babies, more babies that tested superior exc.
You would have to link specific horses to get more detailed information. :)Thanked by 1Heiress -
This mare a complete disaster but look under records and she what she threw a good foal
ShF Romer273933
Licenses mu, dfp2, Onyx. Splash M, Shatter Glass, Ice-2,4,6,7,9,13,15,16,17,18,19,20. Axiom-Blue/Red, WW, Nac, Thunder, Wc, IS, Toner, Chin, Plat, Phantoms-Apple, Bat, Bird/Critter Tracks, Bouquet, ghost, sun/star Runes, Cobweb, Puddle, Diamond spark, Hearts, Jellyfish, Spider, WispThanked by 1ConfluenceStable -
One of my best foundation mares (all of her foals passed strict breeding advice!) only has a PT score of 4.7 and all of her foals have had PTs over 10.20.
FM Where The Clouds Go
Her colt that's now sired some foals gave me my first 11.10 PT score foal. I had the same instinct as you where I was hesitant to breed her because of her low PT but it really does show that it doesn't predict what their offspring is going to be like!Thanked by 1ConfluenceStable -
For foundation horses, the breeding and training ability scores are completely unrelated to each other. The game rolls its random number generator separately for each stat. For lined horses, the game combines the parents breeding ability scores with a random number twice according to a formula known only to Ammit, once for the foals breeding score and once for its training score. So the breeding and training ability of a lined foal will both fall withing a certain range depending on the parents' breeding abilities, but either stat can fall at any point withing that range and are otherwise not related to each other.Post edited by LakeOndowaFarm at 2022-01-25 02:49:50Breeding high quality Sheldasen horses in all the fancy colors.
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How can a good show horse, lets say, 11 PT, not be a good producer? Wouldnt they also then be a lacking show horse?
A horse with an 11 PT is almost certainly a better breeder than a horse with a 9 PT but that does not mean they are an improvement over their siblings or parents. An American Warmblood stallion might score higher on his grading than a Trakehner stallion but the Trakehner stallion might have a much harsher inspection to pass. The Trakehner might be the better horse in absolute terms but still not pass his breeding inspection. A brand new foundation line has a much easier inspection to pass than a 7th generation star line. Breeding advice is based on relative quality, not absolute quality.
ShF Romer this mare is bad and WOULD be a bad breeder as well (the two numbers are linked to each other and not completely random anymore) but she was created with a special herd helper that made her a good breeder. Her breeding paper scores NOT her PT scores tell you how good a breeder she is. You can also tell how good a breeder a horse is by looking at the PT scores of their foals. She has high PT foals there for she is a good breeder. The identical is true for FM Where The Clouds Go. These are not normal foundation creates.
If you look at normal creates and lined horses there is absolutely a correlation between showing and breeding. They are just not identical numbers.Post edited by Ammit at 2022-01-25 05:29:07Need to contact me? Read this first.
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