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In this Discussion
- bravo25 April 2017
- Kintara April 2017
- SandyCreekAcres April 2017
- Stone Silo Farm April 2017
- Sunshine April 2017
- TawnyEclipse April 2017
- Visions April 2017
- WhiteValley April 2017
Show horses?
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Hello C:
I'm a smaller just starting account and I'm realizing my wants are more expensive than my income! XD
I have a few show horses, some winning others training. I've spent hours combing sales and auctions and only turned up four good show horses -.- lol
I'm looking for consistency, and if possible a decent leveled off shower. I'm strapped for cash, since I'm trying to resist buying game money with IRL funds, so my budget is 3k per animal. I will consider a bit more for intact horses in shades of Black or red (frame, spl, sab, appy) ;)
I'd appreciate any advice, too, on showing or breeding!!
Thank you,
Bravo :)
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@SandyCreekAcres has show horses up for adoption for new players.ID 213454
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I have some 'Great Show Horses' - a herd helper that ensures good steady money in the show ring. My Adopt A Horse barn has 7 year olds in it who will make you steady money from their accummulated points as well as from entering them in shows. All of these horses are available for 1hb each to new players. This link should take you to the barn where you can look at the horses and then let me know if you want any of them.
http://www.huntandjump.com/member.php?b_id=16622
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I've gotten some lovely Foundation mares from the Foundation Rescue. Granted; most of the time you won't know how they'll do when they get in the arena. If you do get an older one you will know what level they've leveled off as, and some people will consistency test them. You also have the advantage that most of the time they've already been tested for breeding ability.
The older horses cost 2500 apiece, and the younger ones a little bit more, most of the younger ones I've seen are priced at 2750.
It is a little risky; as I mentioned before, since almost all of them have never been show before, but you also have the choice of breeding them if they don't turn out like you expect. Also, if you click on Training Level in the Basic Sort button, it will give you the horses that have leveled off the highest that are available for sale, these make great breeding stock!
Side note: if you do get leveled off horses, make sure that you don't train them, otherwise they'll level up again. They'll still retain their original score from the former level which will almost all of the time put them in the bottom of the class, which will earn you no points or money. I've had several horses that I've gotten that were great at the level they were in, and when they leveled up again they went straight to the bottom of the show.
I hope this helps somewhat! Sorry if I went on for to long! ;)
Post edited by Sunshine at 2017-04-26 15:22:30 -
Actually all of the mares in the Foundation Rescue have identical ability: they're considered perfect quality (100%) in both breeding and showing, and as far as I know the Foundation Rescue trains every horse every week. It doesn't show them, so they don't accumulate any points, but they haven't missed out on any real learning.
The real money from showing lies in the collection of points from showing: you get almost nothing in actual winning vs. the cost of entering classes, whereas the income from points is cumulative. -
I will add you to a buddy chat where you can adopt a good show horse, usually with a good amount of points already accrued.
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Thank you guys, for all your help!
I didnt realize that the points do a little more good than the actual earnings! Thank you to those few who let me adopt a few of their show horses, Im so happy to have them apart of my barn C:
Now, someone mentioned the foundy rescue horses; that some are 2500 and some are 2750. I saw that it wasnt just broods and it wasnt just perfect foundation horses, there were other random HH creates and studs selling for 2750. Do these have better breeding ability compared to the others, is there any reason for this?
As a side note, too, for breeding. I wanted to create a red line and a black line. Ive picked up that you want the sons to be better than the sires, that only makes sense. However, say for example in all my breedings, I get a horse that is a great horse, but doesnt fit my program. Like this girl, she seems well and good I just dont want inconsistency in my lines: http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=5173327
In the event I have to sell, what is the best way to help sell my horse, so to say. Is it okay to mix colors or is it best to stay one color based?
Thank you guys again for all your help, i truly appreciate it! :) -
The Foundation Rescue saves all horses with 100% breeding ability, 100% showing ability, and perfect consistency. Not all of them will be from a Perfect Foundation herd helper, so not all of them have a Perfect Foundaion tattoo, but all of them are Perfect Foundations, regardless of the DHH they were made from. If a horse is found in the keeping of Owner 13, it will be a perfect foundation, because that the specifications by which it is selected for rescue and always has been. You can even get a Perfect Foundation just using the ordinary create feature without having a DHH available.
Perfect Foundations have been in the game for a very long time, long before the Daily Herd Helpers were introduced.
If you decide not to keep a horse in your stable, you can try offering it for sale here in the forum. If it's a color or pattern that you think many players might be interested in, you can try making your offer a Forum Auction, inviting interested players to bid on it right here. However, the quickest way to sell an ordinary color or a very common pattern, is to put the unwanted horse into the Public Auction.
Each player has individual goals, and so there isn't much sense trying to breed foals specifically for sale. I, myself, tend to have some of almost everything in my stable (well, I do have 5,325 horses at this moment) and I seldom sell or buy horses. I'm not sure I have many White 1 horses, and I don't breed for Satin, Pearl, Gulastra Plume or Kit Promoter, but almost anything else is to be found somewhere in my barns or pastures.Post edited by SandyCreekAcres at 2017-04-27 02:54:44 -
I actually have no idea why some horses in the foundation rescue sell for 2500 and some for 2750, as far as I know they are all the same 100% foundation breed and show ability
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The points are the most important thing. If you look at your main stable page you should see a box called Performance Overview with some information in it about points and HBs. It should say 'You currently hold X points.' and 'You earn a _______ hbs daily bonus from showing.'
Basically how that works is that you earn half the value of your horses' accumulated points in HBs every week, even if you enter no shows, and as an added bonus it pays you 1/7th of that value every day instead of making you wait until Sunday to collect. The more you show your horses, the more points they collect. The more points they have, the more money they are worth. If you sell a horse or yum it or it ages out of the game during rollover, you lose those points and that addition to your income.
So yes, showing is important. Winning... not so much.
Which brings up the related issue of what to do with horses that don't fit your breeding program. The best option is to spay/geld them and turn them into show horses. Most horses aren't worth much for general sale, and they can very quickly exceed that in the money they bring you via weekly income. You might be thinking "well I need that stall for another mare/stallion/baby that fits my breeding goals" but the ratio of purely show horses to breeding animals (which can also be shown, certainly) skews VERY heavily toward spays/geldings in most barns that consider themselves self-supporting.
I mean, I just looked and I have 14,765 horses. Yes, almost fifteen THOUSAND. o.O My total number of intact mares and stallions, including yearlings from this year's breeding and my embryo transfer recipient mares, is just under 2,000. The spays and geldings more than earn their keep.