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Wanted to add, I'm a bargain shopper. I generally will not pay the full lifetime payout of a horse. I look for pointed mares that are priced in the 50 to 75% of their lifetime payout as I know I can make a profit over the long term. It gives the new member some quick hbs - basically both still benefit.

Mhmm, that, and wouldn't exp shows, exc Producers, and Exc Perfects sell at a higher price than just a regular pointed horse? Or are they the only ones people will put up for sale anyways? My half payout price horses don't seem to sell at all, My exceptionals rarely except when I post in the forum, several will sell.

Rank Specials and ExPro etc don't matter for me for Embryo mares as they aren't giving the genes to the foals, they are just carrying embryos for me.

Rank Specials and ExPro mares only matter to me if they carry DP. If they carry DP, I use them for foundation pasture breeding. And yes, at that point, I do pay a lot more for them. In order to hoard them, I also take DP mares and GMT them to fit my lines better.

Age is also a factor, I buy them young and breedable and auction after 10.

That is just what I do, everyone plays and buys different.

Because Humboldt likes that gene and breeds for it :)

lol
And here I had a Hom Dp that wouldn't sell.

@OopsDotCom only 9 of the horses in the link you posted are foundation horses. That is probably a factor on your ability, or inability to sell them. Foundations for the most part are easier to sell than lined or bootstrap horses. Lined/bootstrap horses are harder because every player’s desires are different.

Pointed creates are easy because the older players who purchase them are looking for show horses, not necessarily breeding horses. Selling foundations as breeding horses is much harder and requires watching the selling market diligently to know what genes are hot topics and current prices. I believe you have too many points total to make pointed creates yourself anymore.

I think that ultimately keeping horses and regularly showing them is the best way to get income. I think that most people enjoy working on their own lines and it is so easy to make new foundation horses that it usually isn't worth buying them from others.

There are a few exceptions:
- Some rank specials are rarer or very popular and would be worth trying to sell (e.g. Nightingale Song, Liberation Actualization, Sugar Plum Fairy, etc.).
- If your account is small enough to create foundations with points, those are worth selling for at least half their lifetime payout
- Sometimes fancy horses or their straws/eggs are sold - from what I can tell, this is kind of tricky because everyone has different gene licenses and preferences. Generally foundation and even-bred lower generation horses will be more popular. DP is pretty popular with everyone, as far as I can tell, but there are definitely trends that change
- Sometimes people look for a Star stallion who will help them start a bootstrap line

Everyone has their own approach, but I personally don't bother trying to sell my lined horses. I don't think they would sell. I do occasionally offer straws from my foundation stallions with popular genes like DP or satin.

@OopsDotCom sorry for the confusion, that's not what I meant to say!

Yes, rank specials that are rare/popular can go for a ton of hbs unrelated to their lifetime payout. That's one way to make hbs by selling. Another way to sell is foundations created with points (usually for half their lifetime payout unless they happen to also be a rank special, in which case it would be more).

I've never figured my ration, I'll have to count just out of curiosity. Mostly I just throw anything that gets clipped into one of my show barns, but I'm rapidly running out of room. I really want to get a couple of those big barn I can just throw the higher rating show horses in and just forget. Right now I'm trying to go through them and cull the less paying ones, but I sure wish I could figure out a way to search for certain points. The most I've figured out is have them sorted by points, but that lists all my horses, not just the ones I want.

I don't want more horses I want less. So I would need sell off breeders or clip them and add them to the show barn? Is that a stupid way to try to increase your income?

Thank you for telling me. I particularly appreciate everyone giving me the numbers they use, it's easier to know what you're trying to do if you have data samples.

Well that can go two ways. I would want all of those genes on my keeper stallion, or I would split it into two lines black appaloosa draft, and a satin, DP, pearl appaloosa line. Personally I like all the genes on one horse approach.

My goals for my line is DP, GP, brown, s+, tiger eye, chocolate, mushroom and fancy kit genes; and have the best breeding ability possible. I made a stallion with those genes, and a few girlfriends.

My 2g stallion (one of two stallions)


2g FireDance SD bb sasa

My 3g boy (one of three)


3g Burning Truffle SD

As you can see I try to get everything on my keeper stallion. These boys not only had to have the color genetics they also had to test superior to their sire, and superior or aga every brother they have. You should be able to look at my stallion barn and know almost perfectly what I am breeding for.

Thank you. Most of the work is on the original mares and stallion after that it’s usually only a few GMTs to tweak gender, PT, and the random gene on the higher generations. Without the het mushroom and any supplementation from rsg sales it was roughly 153 gmts for the big modifications. Then there was the 5% boost I added to the stallion. The mares I made aren’t as fancy as the stallion, they are hom for some genes and het for others, plus I only make them as I have the funds or desire.

I rarely buy outside horses so I wanted my stallion to have everything I wanted right off the bat. That’s really where that show horse ratio pays off. I was able to do all my breeding and still save for my big GM projects.

Yes. Thank you the dapples are a happy side affect.

I might pay other members hbs to buy me genes or pastures but really I mostly play the game without spending RL money. Everything I do is funded by my show horses.

Lol it’s a lot.