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Total Points and Lifetime Payout Not Aligning
  • This horse has 2848.5 points and a daily payout of 305, but the lifetime payout is also 305. I thought it would be a five-figure number. Does lifetime payout or what you'd get at auction depreciate over time?
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    What does this mean for keeping versus selling horses?
    Post edited by Treble at 2022-04-29 14:07:50
    Game number 273531
    Licensed for Ice 9, 13, 17, and 18, Shatterglass, Nacre, Paintbrush Cool, Axiom Blue, Chinchilla, and Watercolor
    Breeder of Black Tobiano, Sabino, and Bay Kit M
    Sale Barn: https://www.huntandjump.com/member.php?uid=273531&b_id=38569
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  • He is paying you 305HB's a day ; MUCH more than what it costs to show him every week , even tho he is placing near the bottom of her class, imo I d keep him til he ages out unless you are hurting for stalls ( chances are he might age out anyway before the next auction Sunday night ). You get a minimum of 2500 when you auction regardless of what the lifetime payout is :)
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  • Yes, lifetime payout does depreciate. Like annismyrph said, he’s earning you a bunch per day, but since he’s 21, he could pass on rollover, so his lifetime payout is small.

    I don’t usually pay much attention to lifetime payout unless I am buying pointed creates when they’re young since it’s a useful ballpark for their value.
    ID #265959 | He/him | Breeding Black Satin, Liver, and Grullo Arcturus Horses | Licenses: Mushroom, DFP2, Onyx, Axiom Blue and Green
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  • I think it's because the horse is over the age at which he could pass away at rollover. The game doesn't know exactly when he'll die, it's a randomly generated chance at rollover whether he'll survive another year or not, so the game can't accurately calculate his real lifetime payout anymore. He could potentially pass away tomorrow, or he could live another game year or more. There's just no telling what exactly his lifetime payout will turn out to be in the end.
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  • Also, lifetime payout is calculated until the horse has a chance to die (so until the day a horse turns 18). Your horse is already 21 years old, which means it has the chance of dying when a new year/season starts. Therefore it's lifetime payout is now (Saturday April 30th) exactly the same as its daily payout, as it has only today left. Tomorrow is May 1st, which means a new year starts and thus the rollover happens. If your horse survives, you will see that his lifetime payout will be much higher: 350 hbs x 30 days = 9k (im not 100% sure this is the right formula to use though).

    Therefore 1yr old foundations created with points have a very high lifetime payout, even if they don't have that many points yet. That's simply because they still have at least 16 more years to live.

    So unless your horse earns more points through showing, its lifetime payout will only decrease. But as a horse scores point through showing, its total amount of points go up, which results in a higher daily payout and thus sustains or increases its lifetime payout.

    I hope this helped explain lifetime payout and daily payout a bit! And please let us know if you have more questions or if anything is unclear. English is not my first language so I hope it makes sense :p


    Edit: I got ninja'd haha, thats what you get for not describing it more shortly :p
    Post edited by MasterStablesMS at 2022-04-29 15:29:04
    HJ1 160524
    HJ2 136

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  • Thank you all for your thoroughness in answering this. It definitely clarified matters. MasterStablesMS, I liked that you were the most thorough in your answer.
    Game number 273531
    Licensed for Ice 9, 13, 17, and 18, Shatterglass, Nacre, Paintbrush Cool, Axiom Blue, Chinchilla, and Watercolor
    Breeder of Black Tobiano, Sabino, and Bay Kit M
    Sale Barn: https://www.huntandjump.com/member.php?uid=273531&b_id=38569

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