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Predict What You Will Get: Breeding Results may now be posted
  • Here's a color guessing contest to test your luck and genetic knowledge.

    1. Pick 5 crosses you want to do with your own stallions and mares. The only restriction is that they may not have identical gene tests. This is because I will only give credit for correct guesses where there is a possibility of more than one result.
    a. If stallion and mare have the same gene set--EE, dd, etc.--there is no question of what that horse will pass on to its foal.
    b. If both are Ee or dD, there are a number of possible results, so this would count as a guess.
    c. If one parent is EE and the other ee, once again you should know for sure what the foal will be, and it's not a guess.
    d. At least one parent should be heterozygous for the gene in question. It's okay if the other parent is homozygous.

    e. In short, the more different allele sets the two parents have, the more points you have a choice of gaining, IF your guess is correct. However, it's okay if some genes have a definite outcome. It's just won't do you much good if most of them don't have at least two possible results.

    2. Guess what the color name and gene test for their foal might be.

    3. Post your 5 entries, giving a link to both horses, their color names, a copy of their genetic test results, and your guess of what the foal will be in this thread, including both color name and the gene test.

    4. The deadlines for posting will be the end of July 1, game time, for players with an upgrade and the end of July 2 for players with free accounts.

    5. Post your results after you have bred your pairs. The format will be to copy your entry post and then insert a link to the foal listing its color name and the actual gene test result.

    6. The deadline for posting your results will be July 16, in case some pairs are being pasture bred.

    I will award 1 point for each correct guess and an additional point for any allele that is attributed to the correct parent. For example, if both stallion and mare are heterozygous for Champagne, You will get 1 point if you guessed the the foal would be heterozygous for Champagne and another point if you guessed correctly that it would get the dominant Champagne allele from the sire or from the dam. (This is really a free point, since if both parents are heterozygous, either one could have given the foal the dominant allele. :D)

    Important note: When listing the alleles for a gene, the first allele comes from the sire and the second allele comes from the dam. For example--Kitto KitSb1--the foal got tobiano from his sire and Sabino 1 from his dam.


    Sample entry. (I originally ran this contest in HaJ2. The sample breeding is from that game.

    Stallion: CK Mellow Whispers 3, Classic Champagne Dun
    Ee aa CC Dd gg ff SSsty Pp Chch WF: Minimal
    http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=393223

    Mare: DB Otrido 3, Bay Dun
    EE Aa CC DD gg ff SstySsty pp WF: Minimal

    Foal guess: Amber Champagne Dun
    EE aA CC dD gg ff SstySsty pp Chch WF: Minimal


    ETA:
    First prize will be a show horse with over 1000 points.
    Second prize will be a show horse with at least 750 points.
    Third prize will be a show horse with at least 500 points.
    Post edited by SandyCreekAcres at 2017-07-03 03:00:20

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  • This is a wonderful idea! I will definitely enter!
    What about untestable genes such as snowflake?
    Post edited by Maddyhall at 2017-06-23 10:25:29
    Player id is: 223523
  • Hmm. I suppose you could include a note of snowflake present in sire and or dam and include it in the guess of the foals color. If both parents are known to be heterozygous snowflake from their pedigree and you make a guess that the foal will be homozygous snowflake, that would count. If both parents are homozygous snowflake, though you will know the foal will be also, so it wouldn't count as a guess. If one parent is homozygous and the other heterozygous, it would also count as a guess. Homozygous snowflake will definitely show up on the foal, if it also has Llp.

    If you do include a potential snowflake foal in your guesses, please make sure to note the status of each parent with regard to the gene either by a tattoo if you use one for this or by including it in the owner's notes. Especially if they are heterozygous.

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    Thanked by 1Maddyhall
  • Bringing this up from the back pages, since the end of the current breeding season is approaching.

    Can you successfully guess the colors of your expected foals?

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  • Just a reminder: You have until Saturday to enter this contest.

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  • I don't need the prize, but I'll enter for fun to get things started.

    Edited due to GMing stallion for crosses 1 and 2 with Macchiato.

    1. Nezaliat
    White Spotted Grullo Pearl Splash Appaloosa Rabicano Brindle
    EE aa CprlCprl dD gg ff SstySsty PP Kitw20Kitw2 SpMSp LlpLlp ECA3PPATN1ECA3P+ rbRb WF: None Mosaic
    X
    Kelrosha
    Silver Amber Cream Champagne Pearl
    Ee AAt CcrCprl dd gg Ff SstySsty PP zZ chCh KitKitw20 WF: None

    Foal guess: Silver Brown Pearl Splash Appaloosa Rabicano
    EE aAt CprlCplr dd gg fF SstySsty PP zZ chch Kitw20Kitw20 SpMSp LlpL ECA3PPATN1ECA3P+ Rbrb

    2.Nezaliat
    White Spotted Grullo Pearl Splash Appaloosa Rabicano Brindle
    EE aa CprlCprl dD gg ff SstySsty PP Kitw20Kitw2 SpMSp LlpLlp ECA3PPATN1ECA3P+ rbRb WF: None Mosaic
    X
    Darvodra
    Bay Pearl Tobiano
    Ee Aa CprlCprl dd gg Ff SS pp Kitw20Kitto WF: Minimal

    Foal guess: White Spotted Bay Pearl Dun Splash Tobiano Appaloosa Rabicano
    Ee Aa CprlCprl Dd gg fF SstyS Pp Kitw2Kitto SpMSp Llp ECA3P+ECA3P+ Rbrb

    3. Jemdarin
    White Spotted Gold Cream Champagne
    ee aA CcrC dd gg Ff SSsty Pp zZ Chch Kitw2Kit NrN WF: Light
    X
    Kurjenit
    Bay Tobiano Appaloosa
    eE aA CC dd gg FF SstyS pp KittoKit LlpL ECA3P+ECA3PPATN1 NgN WF: Extensive

    Foal guess: Error Unknown Anomaly (yellow axiom)
    ee Aa CcrC dd gg fF SstySsty Pp zz Chch KitKitto LLlp ECA3P+ECA3P+ NrNg

    4. Rothanix
    White Spotted Silver Sable Champagne Dun Splash Tobiano
    EE Ata CC dD gg ff SstyS Pp zZ Chch saSa Kitw3Kitto SpSps WF: Large
    X
    Dinloshek
    Brown Frame Appaloosa Rabicano
    Ee Ata CprlC dd gg ff SstyS PP saSa Kitw20Kit LlpL ECA3PPATN1ECA3P+ Rbrb OlwO WF: Medium

    Foal guess: White Spotted Silver Brown Dun Appaloosa Rabicano
    Ee Ata CCprl Dd dd ff SstySsty PP Zz chch sasa Kitw3Kit SpSp LLlp ECA3P+ECA3PPATN1 rbRb OO

    5. Rothanix
    White Spotted Silver Sable Champagne Dun Splash Tobiano
    EE Ata CC dD gg ff SstyS Pp zZ Chch saSa Kitw3Kitto SpSps WF: Large
    X
    Rasherda
    Gray Splash Tobiano Frame Appaloosa Rabicano
    EE Ata CCcr dd gG ff SS PP zZ chCh saSa KitKitto SpsSp LLlp ECA3P+ECA3P+ rbRb OOlw WF: Medium

    Foal guess: White Spotted Silver Sable Champagne Creme Tobiano Splash Rabicano Frame
    EE aAt CCcr dd gg ff SstyS pP ZZ Chch sasa Kitw3Kitto SpsSp LL rbRb
    OOlw
    Post edited by LakeOndowaFarm at 2017-06-28 17:18:57
    Breeding high quality Sheldasen horses in all the fancy colors.
    81995
    Thanked by 1SandyCreekAcres
  • Any more takers?

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  • #1
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    Silver Stars


    Silver Black Sabino Splash
    eE aa CCprl dd gg Ff SS PP Zz Kitsb1Kit SpsSp NNx WF: Extensive

    Crossed With

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    3G Lighted Eclipse

    Classic Champagne
    eE aa CC dd gg ff S+S pp Chch saSa NNx WF: Medium

    Foal Guess
    Nexus
    Ee aa cr Prl dd gg ff S+ S Pp zz SB1 Sa sa SPs NX NX

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    #2
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    BlacKnight RS Kp I2I5


    Brown Ice Brindle
    EE Ata CC dd gg FF SstySsty PP I2I5 WF: None Mosaic

    Crossed With

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    Kaleidoscope


    Silver Black Ice
    Ee aa CC dd gg Ff SstySsty Pp Zz I8Ii WF: Large

    Foal Guess
    Silver Black Ice
    Ee aa CC dd gg Ff SstySsty Pp zZ I2I8

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    #3
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    1 Casual Affairs


    Black Splash Appaloosa (Homoz. snowflake)
    EE aa CC dd gg ff SS pp Sps sps LLlp ECA3P+ECA3P+ WF: Large

    Crossed With

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    BA Snowflake Surprise


    Black Appaloosa (homoz. snowflake)
    Ee aa CC dd gg ff SstyS Pp LLlp ECA3P+ECA3P+ WF: Minimal


    Foal Guess
    Black Splash Appaloosa (Homoz. snowflake)
    Ee aa CC dd gg ff Sty S pp Sps sps LLlp ECA3P+ECA3P+

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    #4

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    Ice Storm Surge


    Silver Classic Champagne Ice Dun Sabino Splash
    eE aa CCprl dD gg FF SS Pp zZ chCh Kitsb1Kitsb1 SpsSps IiI5 WF: Light

    Crossed With

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    Signature Eclipse


    Black Ice
    Ee aa CprlC dd gg ff SSsty Pp IiI8 NxN WF: Medium


    Foal Guess
    Classic Sabino splash Champagne Ice
    EE aa CCprl dd gg Ff SSty Pp zz Kitsb1Kit SpsSp NNx

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    #5

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    Lined Iron


    White Spotted Gray
    EE aA CC dd gG fF SstySsty pp KitwKit WF: Extensive


    Crossed With

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    Classic Heights


    Buckskin Dun Splash Tobiano
    EE aA CCcr dD gg fF SstySsty Pp KittoKit SpsSp WF: Extensive

    Foal Guess
    White Gray
    EE AA CC dd Gg ff SstySsty pP W1
    Post edited by Abbey98 at 2017-06-29 19:01:02
    Thanked by 1SandyCreekAcres
  • Oh I'd like to join in. I'm a free player so I have til the 2nd right? I'll try to get my guesses in today though!
  • Dunottar, SandyCreek says that yes, as a free member you do have until the 2nd to get your entry in. (SandyCreek is my mother and is looking over my shoulder as I type.)
    Breeding high quality Sheldasen horses in all the fancy colors.
    81995
  • Any one else bold enough to predict what you will get from your breeding? Entries are sparse at this point, so you will almost certainly be able to win one of the prizes, unless a large number of people enter soon.

    I have agreed to extend the entry deadline to midnight on the 2nd for players with free account.

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    CS Abandoned Outlaw2

    EE aA CCcr dD gg fF S+S pp Kitsb2Kit SpSps WF: Large
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    CS Devil in Frame 2G

    Ee aa CprlC Dd gg FF SstyS pp Kitsb2Kit OOlw WF: Extensive

    Foal - Ee Aa cprl DD S+ sb2 olw - Bay Dun Pearl Sabino Frame

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    CS Ice Spell 2Gsa

    EE aa CCcr Dd gg ff S+S pp zZ saSa Kitw8Kit SpsSps Rbrb WF: Minimal
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    CS Distant Love 2G

    EE aA CcrC Dd gg fF SstyS Pp saSa WF: Medium

    Foal - EE aa Ccr Ccr Dd Ssty saSa Sps w8 - white spotted smokey cream Dun splash (with satin)

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    CS WhirlwindInIce 2G

    EE aA CprlCcr dD gg fF SstyS Pp SpSps I5Ii WF: Large
    X
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    CS Distinctly Unco 2

    Ee aa CC Dd gg fF SstyS pp saSa WF: Light

    Foal - Ee Aa Ccr Dd - Buckskin Dun

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    CS Dragonheart F

    EE aa CprlCcr Dd gg FF SstySsty pp Kitw8Kitsb2 LlpL ECA3P+ECA3P+ WF: Medium
    X
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    CS Sentimental 2G

    EE Aa CcrC dd gg Ff SstySsty pp KittoKit rbRb WF: Minimal

    Foal - EE aA Ccr Dd Ssty Ssty Kitw8 Rb - white spotted buckskin rabicano (hopefully with two copies of GP)

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    CS Freedom Fighter 2

    Ee AA CcrCcr dd gg FF SS pp SpsSp WF: Extensive
    X
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    CS Moonlight Shadow2

    EE Aa CC dd gg Ff SstyS pp WF: None

    Foal - Ee AA Ccr - buckskin with two copies of GP

    I know not all of them fit the criteria but most of my mares are in multiple stallion pastures so hard to tell who is going to end up with who.
    Post edited by CalgulStation at 2017-07-08 16:09:27
    Player ID 76088
    Licensed for Mushroom, Onyx, Splash M, Shatterglass, all Ice genes (bar 18), all Axiom genes, Warp, Void, nacre, all paintbrush genes, thunderstruck, watercolour, inks
    It, toner and some phantom genes

    Breeding black based, Grullo and GP horses along with a boatload of fantasy and ice horses
  • Thanks to those who entered. I will try to run this contest again in September (next game year).

    Don't forget to post your results. Looks like everyone will be eligible for a prize. I'm looking forward to seeing how the predictions turn out.

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  • 1. Nezaliat
    White Spotted Grullo Pearl Splash Appaloosa Rabicano Brindle
    EE aa CprlCprl dD gg ff SstySsty PP Kitw20Kitw2 SpMSp LlpLlp ECA3PPATN1ECA3P+ rbRb WF: None Mosaic
    X
    Kelrosha
    Silver Amber Cream Champagne Pearl
    Ee AAt CcrCprl dd gg Ff SstySsty PP zZ chCh KitKitw20 WF: None

    Foal guess: Silver Brown Pearl Splash Appaloosa Rabicano
    EE aAt CprlCplr dd gg fF SstySsty PP zZ chch Kitw20Kitw20 SpMSp LlpL ECA3PPATN1ECA3P+ Rbrb

    Actual foal: Silver Amber Cream Champagne Pearl Dun Splash Appaloosa Rabicano
    Ee aA CprlCcr Dd gg ff SstySsty PP zZ chCh Kitw20Kitw20 SpMSp LlpL ECA3PPATN1ECA3P+ Rbrb WF: Minimal
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    Kirikash


    2.Nezaliat
    White Spotted Grullo Pearl Splash Appaloosa Rabicano Brindle
    EE aa CprlCprl dD gg ff SstySsty PP Kitw20Kitw2 SpMSp LlpLlp ECA3PPATN1ECA3P+ rbRb WF: None Mosaic
    X
    Darvodra
    Bay Pearl Tobiano
    Ee Aa CprlCprl dd gg Ff SS pp Kitw20Kitto WF: Minimal

    Foal guess: White Spotted Bay Pearl Dun Splash Tobiano Appaloosa Rabicano
    Ee Aa CprlCprl Dd gg fF SstyS Pp Kitw2Kitto SpMSp Llp ECA3P+ECA3P+ Rbrb

    Actual Foal: White Spotted Black Pearl Splash Tobiano Appaloosa Rabicano
    Ee aa CprlCprl dd gg fF SstyS Pp Kitw2Kitto SpMSp LlpL ECA3P+ECA3PPATN1 Rbrb WF: Large
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    Divambra 2R


    3. Jemdarin
    White Spotted Gold Cream Champagne
    ee aA CcrC dd gg Ff SSsty Pp zZ Chch Kitw2Kit NrN WF: Light
    X
    Kurjenit
    Bay Tobiano Appaloosa
    eE aA CC dd gg FF SstyS pp KittoKit LlpL ECA3P+ECA3PPATN1 NgN WF: Extensive

    Foal guess: Error Unknown Anomaly (yellow axiom)
    ee Aa CcrC dd gg fF SstySsty Pp zz Chch KitKitto LLlp ECA3P+ECA3P+ NrNg

    Actual Foal: Silver Buckskin Appaloosa
    eE aA CcrC dd gg FF SSsty pp Zz LLlp ECA3P+ECA3PPATN1 WF: Medium
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    Kamarith


    4. Rothanix
    White Spotted Silver Sable Champagne Dun Splash Tobiano
    EE Ata CC dD gg ff SstyS Pp zZ Chch saSa Kitw3Kitto SpSps WF: Large
    X
    Dinloshek
    Brown Frame Appaloosa Rabicano
    Ee Ata CprlC dd gg ff SstyS PP saSa Kitw20Kit LlpL ECA3PPATN1ECA3P+ Rbrb OlwO WF: Medium

    Foal guess: White Spotted Silver Brown Dun Appaloosa Rabicano
    Ee Ata CCprl Dd dd ff SstySsty PP Zz chch sasa Kitw3Kit SpSp LLlp ECA3P+ECA3PPATN1 rbRb OO

    Actual Foal: White Spotted Silver Sable Champagne Frame Rabicano
    Ee aAt CCprl dd gg ff SS PP Zz Chch sasa Kitw3Kit rbRb OOlw WF: Extensive
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    Dorfanos


    5. Rothanix
    White Spotted Silver Sable Champagne Dun Splash Tobiano
    EE Ata CC dD gg ff SstyS Pp zZ Chch saSa Kitw3Kitto SpSps WF: Large
    X
    Rasherda
    Gray Splash Tobiano Frame Appaloosa Rabicano
    EE Ata CCcr dd gG ff SS PP zZ chCh saSa KitKitto SpsSp LLlp ECA3P+ECA3P+ rbRb OOlw WF: Medium

    Foal guess: White Spotted Silver Sable Champagne Creme Tobiano Splash Rabicano Frame
    EE aAt CCcr dd gg ff SstyS pP ZZ Chch sasa Kitw3Kitto SpsSp LL rbRb
    OOlw

    Actual Foal: Gray Splash Tobiano Frame Rabicano
    EE aa CC Dd gG ff SS pP Zz chCh Sasa KittoKit SpsSps rbRb OOlw WF: Extensive
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    Renirin
    Breeding high quality Sheldasen horses in all the fancy colors.
    81995
    Thanked by 1SandyCreekAcres
  • Bringing this back from the depths. :D

    Don't forget to breed your matched pairs for the contest.

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  • #1
    Nexus
    Ee aa cr Prl dd gg ff S+ S Pp zz SB1 Sa sa SPs NX NX

    Actual Foal
    EE aa CC dd gg ff SS Pp Zz Sasa NxN WF: Extensive

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    4G SS X LE 01



    #2
    Silver Black Ice
    Ee aa CC dd gg Ff SstySsty Pp zZ I2I8

    Actual Foal
    EE Ata CC dd gg Ff SstySsty Pp zZ I5Ii WF: Medium
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    Black Colors


    #3
    Black Splash Appaloosa (Homoz. snowflake)
    Ee aa CC dd gg ff Sty S pp Sps sps LLlp ECA3P+ECA3P+

    Actual Foal
    EE aa CC dd gg ff SSsty pp SpsSp LlpL ECA3P+ECA3P+ WF: Extensive
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    2G CA X SS



    #4
    EE aa CCprl dd gg Ff SSty Pp zz Kitsb1Kit SpsSp NNx

    Actual Foal
    eE aa CC Dd gg Ff SSsty pP Kitsb1Kit SpsSp I5Ii NNx WF: Extensive
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    ISS X SE 01




    #5
    EE AA CC dd Gg ff SstySsty pP W1

    Actual Foal
    EE aA CCcr dd gg fF SstySsty pp KitwKit SpSps WF: Extensive
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    Iron Mess

    Post edited by Abbey98 at 2017-07-07 20:10:52
    Thanked by 1SandyCreekAcres
  • 1. image
    CS Abandoned Outlaw2

    EE aA CCcr dD gg fF S+S pp Kitsb2Kit SpSps WF: Large
    X
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    CS Devil in Frame 2G

    Ee aa CprlC Dd gg FF SstyS pp Kitsb2Kit OOlw WF: Extensive

    Foal Guess- Ee Aa cprl DD S+ sb2 olw - Bay Dun Pearl Sabino Frame

    Actual Foal - 5430327
    Bay Dun Sabino Splash Frame
    EE Aa CCprl dD S+ Sty Kitsb2 Sps Olw

    2. image
    CS Ice Spell 2Gsa

    EE aa CCcr Dd gg ff S+S pp zZ saSa Kitw8Kit SpsSps Rbrb WF: Minimal
    X
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    CS Distant Love 2G

    EE aA CcrC Dd gg fF SstyS Pp saSa WF: Medium

    Foal Guess - EE aa Ccr Ccr Dd Ssty saSa Sps w8 - white spotted smokey cream Dun splash (with satin)

    Actual Foal - 5430427
    Silver Perlino Splash Rabicano
    EE aA Ccr Ccr dd fF S SSty pP Zz saSa Sps Sp

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    CS WhirlwindInIce 2G

    EE aA CprlCcr dD gg fF SstyS Pp SpSps I5Ii WF: Large
    X
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    CS Distinctly Unco 2

    Ee aa CC Dd gg fF SstyS pp saSa WF: Light

    Foal Guess- Ee Aa Ccr Dd - Buckskin Dun

    Actual Foal - Whirling in Circles 3G
    Buckskin
    Ee Aa CcrC dd Sasa

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    CS Dragonheart F

    EE aa CprlCcr Dd gg FF SstySsty pp Kitw8Kitsb2 LlpL ECA3P+ECA3P+ WF: Medium
    X
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    CS Sentimental 2G

    EE Aa CcrC dd gg Ff SstySsty pp KittoKit rbRb WF: Minimal

    Foal Guess - EE aA Ccr Dd Ssty Ssty Kitw8 Rb - white spotted buckskin rabicano (hopefully with two copies of GP)

    Actual Foal - 5453974
    Buckskin Sabino Tobiano Appaloosa
    EE aA CcrC dd Ssty Ssty Kitsb2 Kitto Llp

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    CS Freedom Fighter 2

    Ee AA CcrCcr dd gg FF SS pp SpsSp WF: Extensive
    X
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    CS Moonlight Shadow2

    EE Aa CC dd gg Ff SstyS pp WF: None

    Foal Guess - Ee AA Ccr - buckskin with two copies of GP

    Actual Foal - 5423468
    Buckskin
    EE AA Ccr and from what i can tell zero copies of GP

    I know not all of them fit the criteria but most of my mares are in multiple stallion pastures so hard to tell who is going to end up with who.
    Player ID 76088
    Licensed for Mushroom, Onyx, Splash M, Shatterglass, all Ice genes (bar 18), all Axiom genes, Warp, Void, nacre, all paintbrush genes, thunderstruck, watercolour, inks
    It, toner and some phantom genes

    Breeding black based, Grullo and GP horses along with a boatload of fantasy and ice horses
  • Is this still going to happen with the winners?
  • Mea Culpa! :\">

    I forgot all about this, after transferring the results to a Word document for easier calculation of points awarded. Occasionally it would come to mind that I hadn't finished the contest. Now that you've brought it to the foreground of the forum (thanks, Abbey), I hope to have my memory kick-started firmly enough to finish the task.

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