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Earnings this year and Total earnings > Question Answered
  • On the horse's main page, it shows an earnings this year, and a total earnings.
    Does this have anything to do with the earnings you get when you win at a show (records, show class) ? And if so, how?
    Post edited by OopsDotCom at 2022-05-24 09:41:13
  • Earnings this year is the total amount that your horse has earned from shows this month. Total earnings is everything they've earned from showing since birth. This has nothing to do with lifetime payout. If you look at the horse's records, you can see where they've placed in each show. Each placement earns a certain amount, which is then added to the earnings.
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  • So If I take the show earnings from the show page, multiply by 8 (shows in a month), it should roughly reflect year's winnings on the main page (taking into account that the yearly winnings are only to date, not the full year/month) which means we can just compare it to 24 times daily payout, and get a rough estimate of whether the horse is paying for itself? I think I have the math wrong, but is the concept working?
  • Personally, I don't really bother with the earnings, since they mostly just cover the entrance fee. The real HBs increase comes from how many points they earn. More points = higher daily payout.
    I like to do what I've been seeing some of the more seasoned players do: keep all show horses until they level off, then decide if they should be culled or not. For me, if a horse has leveled off and is earning fewer than 20 points by the 15th, I send them to auction(unless I'm keeping them as a Wreck-It horse). Everyone is different and sets their own standards though.
    Post edited by MackZ at 2022-05-21 21:49:35
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  • I think part of my problem is I'm not being selective enough when SBA clips a horse. I'm putting them all into the show barns. I've got too many horses, and can't keep buying barns once a month when I run out of room. When I look at some of them individually, I think I should get rid of for example maybe all the yellows and the c's automatically. I've got to figure out some way of judging them without spending half an hour per horse per 7k horses.
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  • Well, my advice on that is to invest in one 1000-stall barn strictly for show horses. If you can do that with IVs it's even better. Once you have enough big earners, you'll be able to support your breeding and GMTing solely on HBs. It takes a while, but it's worth it.
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  • for my 2nd generation all horses that dont paper higher than their parents get snipped. if they tested "better a show horse than a breeder" i keep them to show ; if they didnt i toss them in auction. every generation after that has to test better then their parents, either by papering higher or by Comp testing them. I only keep 2g and 5g and higher for show horses if they test better as a show horse.
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  • @annismyrph, That's interesting new advice I hadn't heard before... So, if you had a batch of foals fresh out of the pasture, you'd run BA on them first, any that get snipped go straight to a show barn. Then run papering on them, and any that passed BA but didn't paper better than parents get snipped and go to auction? I've been keeping my snipped C/Yellow 2Gs for show as well as the first round of snips, but what you say makes me think, they probably aren't as good as show horses as the first ones snipped by BA, right? The second round of snips aren't good breeders, but passed BA, so their showing ability probably isn't the best either. That makes sense. The only thing is, for me, I use all fully pasture boosted brood mares, and I almost never get snips from BA. Maybe one or two out of a hundred. Would this method still work? Another question, do you PT test all 2Gs? Or just go with BA and watch their performance?
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  • @CLynnRose ..if they pass BA "Technically" they are better breeding horses than showing horses ; but if they dont paper or comp test better than their parents you are breeding "backwards : ie a not superior foal. I also use fully pasture bonus mares; once a mare hits 4 or 5 i try to get them in the appropriate pasture and they stay there until 19 or aging out. I usually am breeding ExPro red / b papered stock as foundations ; so all of the 2g's Must be A / Blue. and yes i usually only get 3 or 4 snipped foals on my foundation pastures. Its the higher generations that are harder to pass BA with you see the most snips on. so for me ;
    1st cull ( doesn't pass BA ) into the show barn
    2nd cull ( I only breed for specific colors so I ll cull if they dont meet those requirements ) color cull
    3rd cull Papering ; 2g Must be Blue / A, 5g Must be Gold/ Star ( these get snipped and tossed in the auction )
    4th cull Comp test if 3g or 4g or higher than 5g ; if not Sup snip and auction
    I PT test everything I am keeping

    my daily HB Bonus is aprox 650k and i have 8 1ooo stall show barns to reference the size of my barn :)
    Post edited by annismyrph at 2022-05-22 12:08:45
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  • "if they pass BA "Technically" they are better breeding horses than showing horses"

    This isn't true...breeding advice tests against parents breeding ability. It doesn't mean they won't show well. When they fail breeding advice, it just means their breeding ability isn't good - they might also end up on the lower spectrum of what the parents can produce for PT or they could be high PT and show very well.

    Some horses are equally good at showing and breeding. I don't cull young horses, I cull older horses that no longer place high in shows. I make the money on lifetime payout instead of culling a foal for 1k.
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  • @ Anni
    1st cull, 2nd cull etc... when are these done? Do you mean each generation? Because when you say "3rd cull, 2g must be blue", how can you get a 2nd generation at your 3rd culling? I've gotten terribly confused.
  • @OopsDotCom, I think it means rounds of culling done on the same group of foals. For example, you run BA first, and right off the bat that culls out some foals from being breeders. Next you look at the ones still left intact and cull for color, if you like. Then you paper the lot and cull for paper level. Then comparison test and cull for only superior horses. The idea is to do the cheapest test first to weed out the obvious culls and then iterate over the foals that are left with the more sensitive and expensive tests so that by the end, you're only keeping the best of the best and you've spent the least amount of hbs to find out which they are. You obviously wouldn't want to spend hbs comparison testing a foal first thing if they haven't even passed BA. That's why it's done in rounds: first cull is BA, which is free, and the last cull is comparison testing, which is the most expensive.
  • Exactly! as @CLynnRose explained it and for those reasons as well, the beauty of this game is you get to play it the way you want to :) I Don't cull older ShowHorses as I find they earn the best even after 10, I d rather cull the foals that dont earn their keep yet in exchange for Showhorses who are paying me 100hbs+ a day :)
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  • 1st round of culling is SBA
    2nd round of culling is paper testing for those that pass SBA
    3rd round of culling is genetic testing for those that pass SBA
    Final round of culling is comp testing for those that pass 1,2 and 3.

    Out of the culls from those rounds, I keep the foals that are in the right PT score range for their generations as show horses. Those that are under the minimum PT score, I auction off.
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  • You've got culling for SBA twice? I'm confused on that one.
  • Ah, the third time I read this I clued in. Thanks.
  • Forest, when you cull for the right PT score for their generation, what numbers do you use for each generation?

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