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- Ammit June 2022
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Pointed Creates and Achievement changes to help you members (and older ones too!)
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We are running an experiment on Forest server to test the new user experience and we quickly realized that the pointed create sales were going to cause problems down the line for the server if we did not put a cap on them. People could create a second premium account and use that to get unlimited pointed creates to keep and sell. This had apparently already started up in the short period the larger pointed creates were available so it is good we got out ahead of this before issues started to really form.
The goal is to get cash in the pockets of new members for them to start out and help them build up a solid starter show barn, not to line the pockets of older members.
With this in mind, a few changes have been made to the create a horse page.
1) You can now keep creating pointed creates up to 60k held points. At 20k points the points for each create are halved and at 40k points they are halved again. This is to help you wean down off creating your points and onto buying and showing for them.
2) I added a bunch of text to help clarify what is going on, why show horses are important, letting you know when your pointed creates will run out etc.
3) There is now a secondary cap. If you hold 60k points OR you have created horses with 100k or more worth of points you can no longer make pointed creates. This is a living cap. That means as those horses die off (even if they are archived) you can start making pointed creates again. This is to allow new members to sell up to 40k worth of pointed creates without it impacting their ability to create horses, but stops people from making unlimited pointed creates for the purpose of transferring money to their primary account. Why a living cap? If you leave the game for a while and come back I want you to be able to start fresh
These changes mean that we will be incentivizing new members to keep the show horses they create. That means they need a new income stream. I have changed the achievement tasks so that they are now giving 10 times the HBs they did before. I have added cash rewards to all achievements AND I have added OVER A MILLION hb in new achievement rewards. New achievements mean you can claim them even as an older member. Enjoy your free million bucks from the new achievement milestones older members. (And watch out for the cash cap!)
-I also super boosted the bonus stall xp to give new members a place to put those new show horses.
We are going to be testing this out to see how this changes the new user experience. That 100k limit is flexible in the future. We are going to try it out and see if that is a good cut-off. As for the total user experience update, we will be doing more in the communing months but I wanted to get this live for the Forest server experiment. I am really looking forward to seeing how these changes work out.Need to contact me? Read this first.
I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )
she/her -
That was fun! I don't think I realized what I had accomplished to be honest because there are so many players that have been here longer that I still feel like a little fish in a big lake. I'm not sure that the bonus stalls have actually been added onto my primary barn yet, but it was funny watching the little bonus stalls counter keep jumping up like it was spasming. Are the extra stalls more delayed because they were added so quickly?
I also think the 100k cap makes sense as well as the limit on selling pointed creates. I started a puppet account on Forest so I'm interested to see how it plays out.
ETA: The stalls were delayed and omg I didn't even know my primary stalls could go that high. I think I subconsciously always assumed there would be a cap at 100. I don't know why. Thank you Ammit!!Post edited by Foxhntr26 at 2022-06-06 06:42:26I love Warmbloods with lots of Sooty and DP. Dark Mahogany Bays, Liver Chestnuts, and Blacks make me super happy. I love horses with color, dfp1, nd1, gray, GP, and KP on the dark base. One day I would like to have a herd of high pt, well papered dark beauties. ID# 257941Thanked by 1Ammit -
haha, I thought it meant 20k per day earning, but that "Unlock Achievement" button kept winking at me. Then just for fun I clicked on it. And the next one and the next one!
I'm still not up to 20k a day, but I'm getting close. Thanks Ammit! -
Wow thanks for giving the established members the achievements also, that was a very pleasant surprise! The cash is great timing with the GE and I'm at the stage where I get really excited about having more stalls lolStarstruck2 on Bluegrass and Forest
Betony707 on Forest & MesaThanked by 1kgstable -
Wow!! I gained like 2.5x my extra stall count! And that hbs bonus is going to be perfect for the GE.
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I was quite surprised to see achievements pop up.
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This was a pleasant surprise to log into this morning. I appreciate all the extra stall space for my upcoming glut and the HBs to help me buy horses and another barn.Game number 273531
Licensed for Ice 9, 13, 17, and 18, Shatterglass, Nacre, Paintbrush Cool, Axiom Blue, Chinchilla, and Watercolor
Breeder of Black Tobiano, Sabino, and Bay Kit M
Sale Barn: https://www.huntandjump.com/member.php?uid=273531&b_id=38569 -
I looked into adding the foundation point count onto your home page but it is very much a no go right now. It would cause significant lag when you load that page. It only works for the new members because they are so small.
There are ways I can get it working but they would take significant amounts of programming that are just not in the cards at the moment.
I am going to give you guys an unlisted page you can look at in the meantime though.
My created pointsNeed to contact me? Read this first.
I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )
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So, do additional points earned from showing pointed creates count towards that total cap as well? Or am I misunderstanding?
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Yes. It has always worked that way. You can create points many dozens of times faster than you can show them up. If you have been playing so long that show earned points are having an impact on your numbers you have been playing too long to be receiving new member benefits.Need to contact me? Read this first.
I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )
she/herThanked by 1Cavalynn -
Well, it's slightly different now, because for this cap, it's only foundations created by the specific player, and it's counting them wherever they are and no matter who is earning points on them by showing them. So you could end up hitting the cap just because other players are showing foundations you've created, not from making additional pointed creates. That's why I was wondering if there was a change in how the points were counted.
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"You can create points many dozens of times faster than you can show them up. If you have been playing so long that show earned points are having an impact on your numbers you have been playing too long to be receiving new member benefits."
This still applies. It doesn't matter if you are showing them or someone else is. If you have been playing so long that the showing has made any sort of meaningful impact you have been playing too long to need new member help.Need to contact me? Read this first.
I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )
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Thank you Ammit! I had been getting cash poor & waiting for my home bred horses to get points. This helps with a financial and morale boost--I'm so appreciative.Thanked by 1Ammit